Why did Wilder and team drag their feet when Hearn sent them the contract?

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  • rickJen
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    #31
    Originally posted by BreWall
    I'm not even surprised why team Wilder was unable to respond quickly bearing in mind that Finkel had to deal with Wilder's 2 other managers.

    It's clear they didn't feel the need to respect and acknowledge that the WBA and Povetkin were waiting for an answer. AJ losing a title without a challenger didn't seem important to them. Strangely enough, Finkel can't even talk to Hearn on the phone. Nobody knows why.
    Wilder and his team were too arrogant to acknowledge the existence of the mandatory obligation Hearn had to deal with.
    Arum, Dela Hoya, or any other promoter would have been on the phone every chance they get with Hearn as soon as they received the contract.
    Not this Finkel character.
    Don't know if it's arrogance or fear.
    He seems so terrified of talking to Eddie.

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      #32
      Nobody cares about AJ so why keep regurgitating the same ass shyt. He’s not fighting Wilder anyway. He’s fighting Povetkin and everything is Wilder this and Wilder that. But nobody knows who Wilder is doe.

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        #33
        Originally posted by genrick
        This knowing full well that WBA and Povetkin were waiting on the sidelines.
        Povetkin is a serious fighter who is probably the equivalent of Spence in Russia.
        He's not just some Berto or Ortiz employed at PBC.
        Is this not proof of arrogance from Wilder's side and a sign that all they wanna accomplish is to piss off Hearn?
        Do you do these ******, de****able things when you claim you want the fight?

        it didn't contain a date, which they had asked for several times. eddie calls these things "minor details." he wanted the fight next year in england all along. you're a clown if you don't understand that.

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          #34
          Why? Probably because it's hard to take seriously an offer from a team that: first wants you to fight one of their stalemates before they sign, then gives you a criminally low ball offer, then names their price for a fight then you ok the price backpeddles all to hell, then sends you an offer with no date

          There's only one side that's truly trying to deliver this fight to us and it sure as hell isn't team Joshua.

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            #35
            Originally posted by just the facts
            Why? Probably because it's hard to take seriously an offer from a team that: first wants you to fight one of their stalemates before they sign, then gives you a criminally low ball offer, then names their price for a fight then you ok the price backpeddles all to hell, then sends you an offer with no date

            There's only one side that's truly trying to deliver this fight to us and it sure as hell isn't team Joshua.
            This right here.

            All the lame attempts to spin it when Hearn and team don’t want the fight.

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              #36
              Originally posted by BreWall
              I'm not even surprised why team Wilder was unable to respond quickly bearing in mind that Finkel had to deal with Wilder's 2 other managers.
              Stop falling for Hearn's IFL propaganda. Finkel runs the show in getting the deal negotiated with any non-Haymon fighter. Wilder having a manager, an adviser and a trainer isn't the reason Hearn took so long to get them a date, before finally admitting the date would be almost a year later.

              Hearn is a huckster. Plain and simple. Of course he's going to have excuses for not fighting Wilder next. But you can't just take those excuses at face value because Hearn lies constantly.

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                #37
                Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                How does nobody on the Wilder side see the BS here?

                If Wilder accepted terms with a rematch clause for if he lost, why the hell would he then just forfeit that when the contract comes? It's a chance to win his belt back.

                It's clear BS. A rematch for Wilder if he lost was never in the offer, but they kicked up a fuss when the contract arrived without it. It was a clear stall tactic and PR move.
                They were willing to sign, without a rematch for Wilder is he lost, as long as the fight was next. You tried to argue the opposite. Wilder was willing to concede the point because he wanted to call Hearn's bluff and prove Hearn was never going to do the fight next no matter what.

                Now that he's proven that, he's focused on becoming lineal champion. AJ can keep the three belts Fury vacated. Wilder was champion before Fury won those belts, let alone before AJ picked them out of the trash. AJ might be a great guy and he's a very talented fighter. I wish him all the success in the world and hope he makes a billion dollars in the UK.

                But he's not willing to take the risk of finding out who the best in the world is and that's a shame.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  They were willing to sign, without a rematch for Wilder is he lost, as long as the fight was next. You tried to argue the opposite. Wilder was willing to concede the point because he wanted to call Hearn's bluff and prove Hearn was never going to do the fight next no matter what.
                  I know you're a paid shill who spreads pro Wilder propaganda but who the hell do you think is gonna believe that Wilder accepted a fight for April WITH a rematch clause for him.

                  But also accepted a fight WITHOUT a rematch clause for him if the fight was next.

                  What the hell kind of sense does that make. You either want a rematch clause or you don't. This isn't about calling anybody's bluff, unless you are saying Wilder was willing to sacrifice a rematch just to 'stick it's to Hearn which makes no sense.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    They were willing to sign, without a rematch for Wilder is he lost, as long as the fight was next. You tried to argue the opposite. Wilder was willing to concede the point because he wanted to call Hearn's bluff and prove Hearn was never going to do the fight next no matter what.

                    Now that he's proven that, he's focused on becoming lineal champion. AJ can keep the three belts Fury vacated. Wilder was champion before Fury won those belts, let alone before AJ picked them out of the trash. AJ might be a great guy and he's a very talented fighter. I wish him all the success in the world and hope he makes a billion dollars in the UK.

                    But he's not willing to take the risk of finding out who the best in the world is and that's a shame.

                    you don'twin the lineage off a guy who didn't fight for two years and has't fought anybody in the top 100 since 2015. i understand that you probabdly won'd budge on that because you have an agenda, but the entire idea is silly and only makes sense if you REALLY want deontay wilder to be lineal champion at the expense of reality or sport.


                    when wilder and joshya fight they'll establish lineage. they are 1 and 2 at HW. if fury can get in the way of that and beat wilder he will have to beat joshua.

                    nobody of sound mind thinks you keep the lineal title after 2.5 years hiatus, including a suspension. you are placing zero onus on a champion to defend his title. forgetting entirely that fur gained about 100 lbs and was in no position during that time to defend. he literally pulled out of a rematch with klitschko because of his "mental health." teh guy was not lineal champion of thw orld or fit to defend his titles for YEARS.

                    so enough partisan crap, please.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Stop falling for Hearn's IFL propaganda. Finkel runs the show in getting the deal negotiated with any non-Haymon fighter. Wilder having a manager, an adviser and a trainer isn't the reason Hearn took so long to get them a date, before finally admitting the date would be almost a year later.

                      Hearn is a huckster. Plain and simple. Of course he's going to have excuses for not fighting Wilder next. But you can't just take those excuses at face value because Hearn lies constantly.
                      who are u to talk about propaganda lmao ur whole shtick here is spouting pro wilder and anti joshua propaganda lmao

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