Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Won't Fight Me April 13th; Should Be Embarrassed

[Ake-Dawg]

i understand what ur saying but ur missing my point.. This fight will be a career high payday for BOTH fighters. Again this fight is without question the absolute BIGGEST AND RICHEST fight in boxing. You cant bring up past opponents because they have nothing to do with this fight. At 55% for AJ, it will be the most amount of money hes ever made by far and at 45% it will be the most amount of money wilder has made by far.. They need each other and there is plenty of money to go around.. there is no need for either side to be pigs. 55-45 lets get this fight made to see who truly is the best hw at the moment.

The question is....is the increase in purse that a 55% gets Joshua worth the risk of losing his belts. For the $50M deal...I say yes. For an extra $10M over what he projects to get off fighting others...he probably doesn't think so.

[Ake-Dawg]

The facts are Wlad had a rematch clause. What prevented Joshua from asking for the fight? A J **** blower said that Wlad was contracted to a rematch. But he meant to say that Wlad had a rematch clause. After 6 months, it was safe to say that they weren't going to rematch. Why didn't Joshua ask for the Wlad fight, lmao. Why is beating a 41 year old Wlad held in such high regard by the J d blowers?

They only wanted to fight WK for the WBA belt. The belt was vacant and instead of having the top two contenders fight for it the WBA came up with the special permit for the WK AJ fight. It was then too big of a reward for the risk to pass up. It worked!

[Raggamuffin]

They only wanted to fight WK for the WBA belt. The belt was vacant and instead of having the top two contenders fight for it the WBA came up with the special permit for the WK AJ fight. It was then too big of a reward for the risk to pass up. It worked!

This is after the fact. A year later.

[Noelanthony]

They only wanted to fight WK for the WBA belt. The belt was vacant and instead of having the top two contenders fight for it the WBA came up with the special permit for the WK AJ fight. It was then too big of a reward for the risk to pass up. It worked!

Sorry pal where is the enigma in this. Why wouldn’t we want to fight WK for the belt. Is that not every boxers sole purpose to acquire as much belts as they can? A belt usually means more money.

Look at the tone of your post.... you don’t sound happy for us at all

“Special permit for the WK AJ fight”
“ it was then too big a reward for the risk to pass up. It worked!”

The funny thing is the WK fight was a great fight but Joshua was greatly exposed in that fight and it’s not a fight that I cling to and say AJ is the finished article. He was well on his way to losing that fight if not for his mini rival in the 11th round. I feel any heavyweight could have got him out of there from the 6th round but that is my own personal feeling and what do I know I’m not clairvoyant.

Now I believe Joshua has improved since that fight it’s a great name on his resume irrespective of his age.

There was a stage Klitschko had all the belts baring Wilders and Wilder was in a position to fight Klitschko for all the straps but he didn’t so don’t turn your nose at Joshua only wanting to fight WK for the WBA.

[Ray*]

I didn't defend Wilder at all in that post. What I did allude to was that the risks you speak of weren't that big of a risk. WK being the biggest but not as big as it's made out to be.

Of course it’s a risk. He was a prospect facing a seasoned champion. He could have sink in that fight. I was one of his/Hearn critic, saying he would never take that fight at that time. He did and won, he took the risk, against Martin too he took a risk, he was facing the weakest beltholder at the time. But Martin was an unknown quantity, even Tyson Fury said Joshua was getting Knocked out by Martin, and he won that too. All those risks were taken under 20 fights, we are not taking about a Joshua with 21 fights here. We are talking about a Joshua with 15/16 fights. So I gave him full credit.

[Ake-Dawg]

Sorry pal where is the enigma in this. Why wouldn’t we want to fight WK for the belt. Is that not every boxers sole purpose to acquire as much belts as they can? A belt usually means more money.

Look at the tone of your post.... you don’t sound happy for us at all

“Special permit for the WK AJ fight”
“ it was then too big a reward for the risk to pass up. It worked!”

The funny thing is the WK fight was a great fight but Joshua was greatly exposed in that fight and it’s not a fight that I cling to and say AJ is the finished article. He was well on his way to losing that fight if not for his mini rival in the 11th round. I feel any heavyweight could have got him out of there from the 6th round but that is my own personal feeling and what do I know I’m not clairvoyant.

Now I believe Joshua has improved since that fight it’s a great name on his resume irrespective of his age.

There was a stage Klitschko had all the belts baring Wilders and Wilder was in a position to fight Klitschko for all the straps but he didn’t so don’t turn your nose at Joshua only wanting to fight WK for the WBA.

Hey now...I have given AJ credit for the WK win. And I am happy for you all. Yay! Lol

[Ake-Dawg]

Of course it’s a risk. He was a prospect facing a seasoned champion. He could have sink in that fight. I was one of his/Hearn critic, saying he would never take that fight at that time. He did and won, he took the risk, against Martin too he took a risk, he was facing the weakest beltholder at the time. But Martin was an unknown quantity, even Tyson Fury said Joshua was getting Knocked out by Martin, and he won that too. All those risks were taken under 20 fights, we are not taking about a Joshua with 21 fights here. We are talking about a Joshua with 15/16 fights. So I gave him full credit.

Martin was no risk at all. He was getting beaten by a cruiserweight who tore his knee up and couldn't continue.

So wait. When Fury says Wilder beats Joshua or that Joshua is scared or whatever he is full of it. When he says Martin knocks out Joshua he is credible and evidence of the risk Joshua was taking.

[Laligalaliga]

That’s funny because the last person Ortiz had to fight he knocked out in the 2nd round while Parker had to take him the distance. So much for the “former WBO champ”

if I have a 6wks camp, I can KO cojanu inside 3. He is a fcccking bum.

[Ray*]

Martin was no risk at all. He was getting beaten by a cruiserweight who tore his knee up and couldn't continue.

So wait. When Fury says Wilder beats Joshua or that Joshua is scared or whatever he is full of it. When he says Martin knocks out Joshua he is credible and evidence of the risk Joshua was taking.

Martin was a risk period. Every fight has its own risk, especially a prospect with less than 16 fights.

I also say Joshua gets taken out by Wilder... so what if Fury thinks the same? What’s that got to do with him predicting that Joshua loses to Martin? Fact is at less than 16 fights Tyson fury predicted that Joshua would lose that fight. Maybe you think Fury is full of it.

[Laligalaliga]

i understand what ur saying but ur missing my point.. This fight will be a career high payday for BOTH fighters. Again this fight is without question the absolute BIGGEST AND RICHEST fight in boxing. You cant bring up past opponents because they have nothing to do with this fight. At 55% for AJ, it will be the most amount of money hes ever made by far and at 45% it will be the most amount of money wilder has made by far.. They need each other and there is plenty of money to go around.. there is no need for either side to be pigs. 55-45 lets get this fight made to see who truly is the best hw at the moment.

Wilder should be lucky to get a 70/30 if that fight is finally made. He brings nothing to the song called Mega fight except the green belt.
Fans have never demanded to see him on ppv. He can barely fill a 20k arena, so what is he bringing in terms of revenue for the bout that he should be paid X20 of his regular pay while the main guy will be walking away with about X2 and half of his regular pay.
That's total injustice.
He can go ahead with 30% fit fury, I don't give a damn. He will always be the B side.
My one cent.