Al Haymon's Side Checks

[KillaMane26]

If i signed im either going to Haymon
or Oscar( if im spanish)

[KTFOKING]

what are haymons more anonymous lower rank fighters getting in their agreement with him? asking because he seems to give a lot to stars but lower guys need more fights

Like which guys? I don't know what they get. But those who are lacking fights is more so due to just not having enough dates. When the PBC concept started, they had dates on like 10 different networks. Now it is only mainly SHO/Bounce/FS1. Here and there FOX, but tht won't pick up until 2019. I said yesterday that as Hearn continues to fail getting the big names, he will get more desperate and start throwing out crazy money to the B-siders. Early on when you start a concept, you HAVE to spend like crazy to make a mark in the business. This is why not unlike PBC, the purses for DAZN will be insane. Obviously that isn't attainable for more than a year or two, but what other choice does Hearn have? He's up against it. He will also need to stop asking for exclusive three fight deals. Will need to just go on a per fight basis. None of the top guys want to go on a start up streaming service where the platform is not proven and be locked up for multiple fights. Just keep an eye on this.

[KTFOKING]

I believe Charlo and Wilder have companies coming soon.

Lions Only Promotions may have started already or will soon. I know Jermell talked about it before the Trout fight.

Bomb Squad Promotions has a good feel to it. Actually both names do. Surprise Haymon hasn't had Wilder start it already. At least with the Charlos, it would have been hard for them to start it as they aren't headliners. I'm sure that will change very soon. So now they need it, didn't in the past.

[IMDAZED]

Lions Only Promotions may have started already or will soon. I know Jermell talked about it before the Trout fight.

Bomb Squad Promotions has a good feel to it. Actually both names do. Surprise Haymon hasn't had Wilder start it already. At least with the Charlos, it would have been hard for them to start it as they aren't headliners. I'm sure that will change very soon. So now they need it, didn't in the past.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it starts with the Fury bout. It’s such a sound strategy. Could be the wave.

[lanker rom]

I don’t think Chris Arreola wants more fights. He said he took time off after the Wilder fight to spend time with family and would see how he was feeling about boxing after.

No I heard he said he wanted more fights

[KTFOKING]

I wouldn’t be surprised if it starts with the Fury bout. It’s such a sound strategy. Could be the wave.

I wouldn't count on that on being the wave for Non-Haymon guys for the reasons I've already mentioned. But for Haymon guys? No doubt, and the wave has already started.

[IMDAZED]

No I heard he said he wanted more fights

He said over a year after Wilder that he was taking time off. So if he did in fact say recently that he wants fights now, it doesn’t support the idea that lower fighters aren’t getting any. His time off was of his own doing.

[IMDAZED]

I wouldn't count on that on being the wave for Non-Haymon guys for the reasons I've already mentioned. But for Haymon guys? No doubt, and the wave has already started.

Agree 100%. I’m sure on some level, Crawford wishes he could do that.

[KTFOKING]

Agree 100%. I’m sure on some level, Crawford wishes he could do that.

And he may be one of the few that Top Rank would be fine allowing to do that. But even that is questionable. I mean which Top Rank fighter minus Pacquiao has their own promotional company?

[lanker rom]

Like which guys? I don't know what they get. But those who are lacking fights is more so due to just not having enough dates. When the PBC concept started, they had dates on like 10 different networks. Now it is only mainly SHO/Bounce/FS1. Here and there FOX, but tht won't pick up until 2019. I said yesterday that as Hearn continues to fail getting the big names, he will get more desperate and start throwing out crazy money to the B-siders. Early on when you start a concept, you HAVE to spend like crazy to make a mark in the business. This is why not unlike PBC, the purses for DAZN will be insane. Obviously that isn't attainable for more than a year or two, but what other choice does Hearn have? He's up against it. He will also need to stop asking for exclusive three fight deals. Will need to just go on a per fight basis. None of the top guys want to go on a start up streaming service where the platform is not proven and be locked up for multiple fights. Just keep an eye on this.

A live nation promoter basically said what your saying bro I understand


"I will tell you a story that few people will tell. Going back 20-30 years, there was a young guy named Al Haymon. And Al had a lot of acts as a promoter. Sometimes he would let other promoters in on a date, sometimes he would sell them the date, and sometimes he wouldn't.
"But every time Al sold an act to me, I lost money. That's when I learned my lesson: that Al Haymon is one of the smartest, brightest promoters in the country. I quit being burned (by buying shows Haymon knew were stiffs) and would only work with him (on the successful ones).
"That taught me more than anything else: learning how to read people. It was one of my best lessons. After that, I was the one who arranged to have him brought in by SFX. That's how much I respected him. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Or in his case, get him to join us." – Jack Boyle