Comments Thread For: Menayothin Goes For 51-0 on August 28, May Pass Mayweather

[Zn1]

Why is the RETIRED!!!! part so hard to understand about this "record"????

no one is paying any attention to that because it's embarrassing.

retiring before you lose is now considered an achievement? GTFO

[Larry the boss]

no one is paying any attention to that because it's embarrassing.

retiring before you lose is now considered an achievement? GTFO

Hell he he fought 50 times, not his fault he didnt lose..should he have fought till he was 50?

[markther]

spence
might have been a challenge; khan would be a challenge; garcia, thurman porter a casual nights work.

You really think Khan? Suprised you mentioned him. He has fast hands but he doesn’t stay disciplined as a boxer for the entire fight. And Floyd was a very sharp counter puncher. I’m looking at how Floyd fought Cotto, Alvarez, Mosley and some of those other guys coming forward and I’m thinking Floyd would have gotten to Khan & stopped him in the later rounds.

[markther]

The funny thing about boxing is when fans get old or years go by, they look at someone’s record and forget about all the extenuating circumstances around those fights like how old the other opponents were, how long it took for those fights to happen, how they accumulated all their titles, etc... and they just see the names.

Like when I first looked at Ali’s record, I said damn he beat Patterson, Archie Moore, and Bob Foster in addition to the other fighters he beat-WOW! But then true boxing historians, not the casual fans will say, but Patterson & Moore were old, way beyond their primes and Foster was a blown up Light heavyweight.

So when people look at Floyd’s record YEARS from now they will see De La Hoya, Cotto, Manny, Mosley, Alvarez, and say damn, Floyd was a f@cking beast. But to be honest, just being objective, he beat Oscar, Manny, & Mosley a little past their prime. Beat a Cotto that got some years taken from his boxing career due to the brutal beating from Margarito cheating. I don’t believe Cotto was the same after that. He got some good wins later but no one knows how good he could have been without that Margarito fight. And floyd beat a very young Alvarez. They were good wins, it just that years from now, they will be looked at differently and better because of the names and all of them will be Hall of Famers. Boxing historians will look at EVERY WIN more under the microscope. I’m 48 years old. When I’m around 75, I will probably forget the circumstances around the wins-LOL!!!!

[Removed Now]

JCC was 87 and 0 when he lost his first fight

Down goes Chavez! Frankie Randell does the unthinkable ! A former Crack head beats the Mexican great haha lmaooooo.

That Jab then straight was perfect. Right on the button. Thanks for the memories.

[Larry the boss]

The funny thing about boxing is when fans get old or years go by, they look at someone’s record and forget about all the extenuating circumstances around those fights like how old the other opponents were, how long it took for those fights to happen, how they accumulated all their titles, etc... and they just see the names.

Like when I first looked at Ali’s record, I said damn he beat Patterson, Archie Moore, and Bob Foster in addition to the other fighters he beat-WOW! But then true boxing historians, not the casual fans will say, but Patterson & Moore were old, way beyond their primes and Foster was a blown up Light heavyweight.

So when people look at Floyd’s record YEARS from now they will see De La Hoya, Cotto, Manny, Mosley, Alvarez, and say damn, Floyd was a f@cking beast. But to be honest, just being objective, he beat Oscar, Manny, & Mosley a little past their prime. Beat a Cotto that got some years taken from his boxing career due to the brutal beating from Margarito cheating. I don’t believe Cotto was the same after that. He got some good wins later but no one knows how good he could have been without that Margarito fight. And floyd beat a very young Alvarez. They were good wins, it just that years from now, they will be looked at differently and better because of the names and all of them will be Hall of Famers. Boxing historians will look at EVERY WIN more under the microscope. I’m 48 years old. When I’m around 75, I will probably forget the circumstances around the wins-LOL!!!!

so out of all those names only Margarito would have defined his career???wow

[baroidi]

if he fights a guy that has at least 1 pro boxing fight on his resume, it automatically puts his accomplishment ahead of Floyd beating a guy who had zero pro boxing fight. Tru TBE!

[markther]

so out of all those names only Margarito would have defined his career???wow

Margarito didn’t help Cotto’s career. That’s my point. He wasn’t the same fighter AFTER that fight. And Cotto admitted that himself. I think Bernard Hopkins said a few times, a really bad beating or KO takes years off a man’s boxing life that can’t be recovered. Fighters are never the same after really bad losses. Cotto went to the hospital after that fight. He lost a lot of blood, his face was really fractured. It took a lot of confidence and heart out of him. He was more cautious inside the ring after that fight. Took a lot out of him. Maybe Cotto would have been more competitive against Manny, Floyd, Trout, and Alvarez later if not for that salvage beating by Margarito. Boxing is just as much psychological as physical.

Cotto’s fights after the Margarito beating, from bottom to top.....

Sadam Ali-loss
Yoshihiro Kamegai-win
Saul Alvarez-loss
Daniel Geale-win
Sergio Martinez-win
Delvin Rodriguez-win
Austin Trout-loss
Floyd Mayweather Jr-loss
Antonio Margarito-rematch win
Ricardo Mayorga-win
Yuri Foreman-win
Manny Pacquiao-TKO loss
Joshua Clottey-win
Michael Jennings-win

[Leonbus2]

Idk. Maidana, Gatti, dela hoya, Pacquiao, cotto, Canelo, corrales, hernandez, Hatton, Judah, mosley, Guerrero, Ortiz, Marquez. All these guys are multiple weight world champions who beat some really really good fighters. Quite a few hofers in there as well. And ppl will hate, but I bet you can't name another fighter with a resume like this.

Definitely an impressive resume, but it looks a lot better than than it actually is. I think the main reason people dismiss a lot of these victories is because of the way Floyd won most of these fights. He was ultra defensive and pretty boring. Coupled with the reasons below, it puts Floyd's resume into perspective.

Maidana, Judah (lost to Khan, enough said)
Gatti, De La Hoya, Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto (all well past their primes),
Canelo (before his prime)
Marquez (moved up 2 weight classes)
Ortiz (come on, he's never been good)
Hernandez (really?)

Guerrero was a good win. But Guerrero turned out to be pretty one dimensional.

Best wins were Hatton and Corrales.

[Larry the boss]

Margarito didn’t help Cotto’s career. That’s my point. He wasn’t the same fighter AFTER that fight. And Cotto admitted that himself. I think Bernard Hopkins said a few times, a really bad beating or KO takes years off a man’s boxing life that can’t be recovered. Fighters are never the same after really bad losses. Cotto went to the hospital after that fight. He lost a lot of blood, his face was really fractured. It took a lot of confidence and heart out of him. He was more cautious inside the ring after that fight. Took a lot out of him. Maybe Cotto would have been more competitive against Manny, Floyd, Trout, and Alvarez later if not for that salvage beating by Margarito. Boxing is just as much psychological as physical.

Cotto’s fights after the Margarito beating, from bottom to top.....

Sadam Ali-loss
Yoshihiro Kamegai-win
Saul Alvarez-loss
Daniel Geale-win
Sergio Martinez-win
Delvin Rodriguez-win
Austin Trout-loss
Floyd Mayweather Jr-loss
Antonio Margarito-rematch win
Ricardo Mayorga-win
Yuri Foreman-win
Manny Pacquiao-TKO loss
Joshua Clottey-win
Michael Jennings-win

I never denied he took something from Cotto...but you down played p4p fighters, world champions and hall of famers on Floyd's resume and said as if Margarito was the only fighter that would have made him great when Margarito himself isnt even great