Comments Thread For: Menayothin Goes For 51-0 on August 28, May Pass Mayweather

[Larry the boss]

Definitely an impressive resume, but it looks a lot better than than it actually is. I think the main reason people dismiss a lot of these victories is because of the way Floyd won most of these fights. He was ultra defensive and pretty boring. Coupled with the reasons below, it puts Floyd's resume into perspective.

Maidana, Judah (lost to Khan, enough said)
name any fighter on anyones resume that has a loss and we can do the same
Gatti, De La Hoya, Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto (all well past their primes),
Gatti-was WBC champ(but ill give you that one)
Oscar was WBC 154 champ(Floyds first fight there)
Manny was p4p #2 WBO champ AND YOUNGER THEN FLOYD...
Mosley-p4p#3 WBA champ (same age Floyd was when he beat Manny yet Floyd doesnt get that excuse)
Cotto-WBA 154 champ (younger then Floyd)
Canelo (before his prime)
He was unified champ and Ring champ and a top p4p fighter...
Marquez (moved up 2 weight classes)
He gave Manny a hell of a fight after this then came back and almost killed him
Ortiz (come on, he's never been good)
He was far younger coming off of a huge win and WBC world champion
Hernandez (really?)
He was lineal champ and WBC champ..why add the REALLY??

Guerrero was a good win. But Guerrero turned out to be pretty one dimensional.

Best wins were Hatton and Corrales-SO THOSE WINS ARE SOMEHOW BETTER THEN ALL THE P4P AND HALL OF FAMERS HE BEAT?
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Hilarious, yall call others past prime and act like Floyd never aged at all

[markther]

I never denied he took something from Cotto...but you down played p4p fighters, world champions and hall of famers on Floyd's resume and said as if Margarito was the only fighter that would have made him great when Margarito himself isnt even great

I mentioned Margarito specifically for Cotto NOT for Floyd. Only to point out Cotto might have been a different fighter by the time he faced Floyd if the 1st Margarito fight wouldn’t have afflicted him. And I didn’t disrespect anyone on Floyd’s resume. They are are future HOF fighters and all great P4P fighters “historically.” They just weren’t in their prime when they fought Floyd. Oscar was 34 years old and Floyd was 30 years old when they fought, Mosley was 39 years old and Floyd was 33 years old when they fought. Manny was 37 years old and Floyd was 38 years old when they fought. Alvarez was 23 years old when he fought Floyd. Cotto was 32 years old and Floyd was 35 years old when they fought.

It’s not like a guy like Sugar Ray Leonard fighting Duran, Hearns, Benitez, and Hagler in those first fights. Leonard was young and in his prime and they ALL were still in their primes too. It’s a difference. Leonard was 23 and Benitez was 21 when they fought. Both HOF’ers. Leonard was 24 and Duran was 29 when they fought the first two times. Leonard was 25 and Hearns was 22 when they first fought. Leonard was 30 and Hagler was 32 when they fought. Hagler was just coming off his (2) most impressive wins of his career against Hearns at 30 and Mugabi at 31.

Great wins by Floyd but not the same as Leonard’s wins. And real boxing historians won’t view them as the same. And that is precisely the reason Floyd will never be viewed as greater than Ali. Ali beat more people in “their” prime than Floyd. And an argument can be made that Ali wasn’t necessarily in his prime when he beat them. Ali lost to Norton and Frazier but he beat them both TWICE to go along with wins against a lot of top heavyweights in their prime. Ali hung on too long and took losses against Holmes & Berbick but his overall resume looks better then Floyd’s.

[Larry the boss]

I mentioned Margarito specifically for Cotto NOT for Floyd. Only to point out Cotto might have been a different fighter by the time he faced Floyd if the 1st Margarito fight wouldn’t have afflicted him. And I didn’t disrespect anyone on Floyd’s resume. They are are future HOF fighters and all great P4P fighters “historically.” They just weren’t in their prime when they fought Floyd. Oscar was 34 years old and Floyd was 30 years old when they fought, Mosley was 39 years old and Floyd was 33 years old when they fought. Manny was 37 years old and Floyd was 38 years old when they fought. Alvarez was 23 years old when he fought Floyd. Cotto was 32 years old and Floyd was 35 years old when they fought.

It’s not like a guy like Sugar Ray Leonard fighting Duran, Hearns, Benitez, and Hagler in those first fights. Leonard was young and in his prime and they ALL were still in their primes too. It’s a difference. Leonard was 23 and Benitez was 21 when they fought. Both HOF’ers. Leonard was 24 and Duran was 29 when they fought the first two times. Leonard was 25 and Hearns was 22 when they first fought. Leonard was 30 and Hagler was 32 when they fought. Hagler was just coming off his (2) most impressive wins of his career against Hearns at 30 and Mugabi at 31.

Great wins by Floyd but not the same as Leonard’s wins. And real boxing historians won’t view them as the same. And that is precisely the reason Floyd will never be viewed as greater than Ali. Ali beat more people in “their” prime than Floyd. And an argument can be made that Ali wasn’t necessarily in his prime when he beat them. Ali lost to Norton and Frazier but he beat them both TWICE to go along with wins against a lot of top heavyweights in their prime. Ali hung on too long and took losses against Holmes & Berbick but his overall resume looks better then Floyd’s.

Floyd wasnt prime when he beat Manny,Cotto or Mosley, Hell he wasnt prime with anyone in his comeback......the time you say Ali hung around to long at that age Floyd was still p4p #1..give credit where it is due.....YOU OSCAR WAS 34 WHEN FLOYD FOUGHT HIM..THEN SAY FLOYD WAS 33 WHEN HE DOMINATED SHANE...THEN YOU SLAME HIM FOR BEATING CANELO AT 23 BUT PRAISE LEONARD FOR BEATING BENITEZ AT 21 AND HEARNS AT 22...WTF???

[F!x]

Sad but true. You can make the sentence "Money May ain't nothin" out of the letters in Menayothin's name.

Menayothin - Money
Menayothin - May
Menayothin - aint
Menayothin - nothin

Not that i agree with that but just sayin.. lol

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World Boxing Council minimumweight champion, Thai Wanheng Menayothin (50-0, 18 KOs) will return to the ring on August 28, to make the tenth defense of his title, determined to improve his record to 51-0.
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Wonder if he can pull even 100 PPV buys?

[markther]

Floyd wasnt prime when he beat Manny,Cotto or Mosley, Hell he wasnt prime with anyone in his comeback......the time you say Ali hung around to long at that age Floyd was still p4p #1..give credit where it is due.....YOU OSCAR WAS 34 WHEN FLOYD FOUGHT HIM..THEN SAY FLOYD WAS 33 WHEN HE DOMINATED SHANE...THEN YOU SLAME HIM FOR BEATING CANELO AT 23 BUT PRAISE LEONARD FOR BEATING BENITEZ AT 21 AND HEARNS AT 22...WTF???

The overall point that your not obviously following is those fighters I mentioned that Floyd fought weren’t in their prime when they fought Floyd where as all the fighters Leonard faced that I mentioned were in their prime along with Leonard being in his prime when he fought them too. Leonard’s wins are stronger than Floyd’s and so are the wins Ali had against the top heavyweights in their prime. It is what it is. Floyd had a great career but no objective boxing fan would call any of his wins greater than Leonard’s against HOF’ers like Duran, Hearns, Benitez, and Hagler. And the point in mentioning Alvarez being 23, he was much less experienced than Floyd and much younger than Floyd. It wasn’t like he was the Alvarez that we seen the past few years.

And Leonard fought Hearns when Hearns was 22 and Benitez when he was 21; but Leonard was also in his 20’s. Big difference and it’s not the same as Floyd fighting guys past their prime. Leonard & Ali have better wins on their resumes period. Floyd beat every fighter he faced. Doesn’t mean those wins are as strong as Ali’s or Leonard or Sugar Ray Robinson. And if Floyd was all that you say he is compared to Leonard, he would have taken on a challenge that Leonard did by agreeing to fight a beast like Hagler that could potentially hurt him. It would have been the equivalent of Mayweather going up in weight to fight GGG. Floyd fought at junior middleweight before. What’s (1) division up. I gave Floyd credit for having a great career. His best Wins just aren’t better than the wins of Leonard or Ali or Robinson. FACTS!!!

[boxinggod101]

Now Im scared for Menayothin... Larry is 100% on his @ss now...

[Larry the boss]

The overall point that your not obviously following is those fighters I mentioned that Floyd fought weren’t in their prime when they fought Floyd where as all the fighters Leonard faced that I mentioned were in their prime along with Leonard being in his prime when he fought them too. Leonard’s wins are stronger than Floyd’s and so are the wins Ali had against the top heavyweights in their prime. It is what it is. Floyd had a great career but no objective boxing fan would call any of his wins greater than Leonard’s against HOF’ers like Duran, Hearns, Benitez, and Hagler. And the point in mentioning Alvarez being 23, he was much less experienced than Floyd and much younger than Floyd. It wasn’t like he was the Alvarez that we seen the past few years.

And Leonard fought Hearns when Hearns was 22 and Benitez when he was 21; but Leonard was also in his 20’s. Big difference and it’s not the same as Floyd fighting guys past their prime. Leonard & Ali have better wins on their resumes period. Floyd beat every fighter he faced. Doesn’t mean those wins are as strong as Ali’s or Leonard or Sugar Ray Robinson. And if Floyd was all that you say he is compared to Leonard, he would have taken on a challenge that Leonard did by agreeing to fight a beast like Hagler that could potentially hurt him. It would have been the equivalent of Mayweather going up in weight to fight GGG. Floyd fought at junior middleweight before. What’s (1) division up. Floyd isn’t better than Leonard or Ali or Robinson. STOP-Just the facts!

would that not make Floyds win better since he was far past prime and still dominated a 23 year old??If Benitez was prime at 21 how can Canelo not be prime at 23?

[Larry the boss]

Now Im scared for Menayothin... Larry is 100% on his @ss now...

i'm really not, people just dont seem to understand what Mayweathers record means..now if the guy retires after this fight we will have the most wins with no losses or draws by a fighter who retired

[boxinggod101]

i'm really not, people just dont seem to understand what Mayweathers record means..now if the guy retires after this fight we will have the most wins with no losses or draws by a fighter who retired

Who cares? Whos this guy? Never heard of him...