Is Mayweather's 2007-2015 run of consecutive opponents the best ever?!?!?

[dibzvincent143]

1) Hoya was a legit HOF fighter
2) Mayweather jumped a division to fight him
3) Mayweather was the B-side, with no advantages
4) Hoya weighed 154..... not 145 lol

like I said, no idea who is Mayweather's best scalp..... haven't thought about it..... and there are just sooooo many to choose from

1.) hoya had 1 fight in 3 years
2.) hoya came from a year long layoff
3.) hoya albeit still good is past his best

Good solid win for Floyd.

Mayweather’s best win is prime Corrales.
He was the underdog in that fight, and he stepped it up big time and KOed him.

[aboutfkntime]

1.) hoya had 1 fight in 3 years
2.) hoya came from a year long layoff
3.) hoya albeit still good is past his best

Good solid win for Floyd.

Mayweather’s best win is prime Corrales.
He was the underdog in that fight, and he stepped it up big time and KOed him.

his best win will likely be Canelo

1) Canelo will go down as a better fighter than Corrales
2) Mayweather fought higher than Corrales, but Canelo will likely end up at 168
3) the Canelo win was dominant, and yes I am aware of the 5 KD's

but like I said..... there are just sooooo many to choose from

[aboutfkntime]

Mayweather's win over Castillo in the rematch was outstanding

it never gets a mention

as was his win over HOF Pacquiao

as was his win over HOF Marquez

the win over Corrales was superb..... but I will go for Hoya, or maybe Canelo..... depending on how Canelo finishes his career

but, sooooo many to choose from

Hoya at 154 was still a very live dog, HUGELY experienced, and very dangerous..... Mayweather had no real advantages in that fight other than being fresher

[dibzvincent143]

his best win will likely be Canelo

1) Canelo will go down as a better fighter than Corrales
2) Mayweather fought higher than Corrales, but Canelo will likely end up at 168
3) the Canelo win was dominant, and yes I am aware of the 5 KD's

but like I said..... there are just sooooo many to choose from

Hmmm it could’ve been if it was at full 154. He was favored to win that fight as well.

While against Corrales it was the last time he was the underdog. And idk if it was also the first

Not many to choose from if were referring to it as the best win.

Duran- over clear cut prime atg leonard kind of victories
Ali- over prime george foreman

[aboutfkntime]

Hmmm it could’ve been if it was at full 154. He was favored to win that fight as well.

While against Corrales it was the last time he was the underdog. And idk if it was also the first

Not many to choose from if were referring to it as the best win.

Duran- over clear cut prime atg leonard kind of victories
Ali- over prime george foreman

Corrales was an excellent win, no question

[Reloaded]

It’s a really really good resume. And like I said he engineered it beautifully and I’m big fan of his craft. But the truth and narratives behind what’s on paper rarely goes hand in hand. Out of the 3 wins you mentioned I give him the most credit for beating Canelo, only thing to say about it is the catchweight. Regardless I’m sure he’d beat Canelo at any weight, but why make it an issue in the first place when he had fought at full 154 before? The fault goes to him.

Oscar was already past his best when they fought, he had 1 fight in 3 yrs, and he came from a year long layoff.
Are those factors not big enough for you? It’d be a big factor regardless who’s resume we will be dissecting.
Still full credit for going to 154, but that won’t qualify as his best win.

Cotto was already pummelled by pac and marg. and jr middleweight wasn’t really his best weight.

Now stop acting like Floyd is a small guy when he fought this dudes, it is only natural for an athlete’s body to grow as they age, and he has grown into a full welter. Or else he would have made the 144 catchweight with Marquez.

Floyd’s best win remains to be against a prime corrales. But like I said it’s a very great resume.
He has a case on claiming the goat status, but the critics will also have clear ones as well.

It’s a really really good resume. And like I said he engineered it beautifully and I’m big fan of his craft. But the truth and narratives behind what’s on paper rarely goes hand in hand. Out of the 3 wins you mentioned I give him the most credit for beating Canelo, only thing to say about it is the catchweight. Regardless I’m sure he’d beat Canelo at any weight, but why make it an issue in the first place when he had fought at full 154 before? The fault goes to him.


I didn't say any of those were is best wins nobody can define what best really is, they why I said those fights were the most memorable for me.

Nobody is trying to say Oscar was at his best, but there is also a point where their primes were not as far split as what people try and make, there were a lot of handicaps in this fight for Floyd, of which Manny had none and it was Oscar that was handicapped, also this Floyd beat Oscar nearly 2 yrs earlier than Manny did, I believe fully that the Oscar Floyd beat would not have lost to Manny, it was only Floyds speed and defense that got him the fight, it was a big win because of that handicap, Floyd looked the softest and most puffy in that fight than Id ever seen before, that's was not near the best FM, I thought it was a really good win his brain won the fight.

Canelo I agree the CW helped, he even said it himself when asked , " It will make the task easier " was his answer.
Why did he take the CW you ask, because he was FM-TBE and Canelo shot his mouth off so Floyd used it to his advantage. With the TBE bs it doesn't matter if we don't agree, thing is he believes it and that creates a power within that makes him the boss in negotiations, if you try and fck with him like Canelo and Maidana did that power comes out and dictates, there is a psychology behind everyone and Floyd knows and believes in his place.


Cotto was already pummelled by pac and marg. and jr middleweight wasn’t really his best weight.


Cotto was not the same mentally after Margs cheat beating, the only way Cotto could conquer his demons was by beating Margarito and he did, that fight relit the fire in Cotto , and he was in awesome shape to win that fight, find be another fight where Cotto was that strong for length and pace of fight, he came to win and was prepared to win.... Fighters are not this robot where they are the same level in every fight, some fights they are in the zone and others they way outside it, Cotto was in the zone and Floyd did great to win that fight on that night.


Now stop acting like Floyd is a small guy when he fought this dudes, it is only natural for an athlete’s body to grow as they age, and he has grown into a full welter. Or else he would have made the 144 catchweight with Marquez.



Floyd Manny JMM are real LWs , ODH Mosley were JWWs fighting as LWs, they are bigger across the scale, Floyd Manny and JMM were only 2-4 pounds away from each other from 130 to 147.

Floyd had been out for nearly 2 yrs so his body had grown a little as you say, he weighed in at 146, same weight he weighed in against Judah and a few others.
I believe he tried to drop in on 144 but his body wasn't dropping the same that last bit stuck and it was either boil it of or pay , he paid like any power player would.

Floyd’s best win remains to be against a prime corrales. But like I said it’s a very great resume.
He has a case on claiming the goat status, but the critics will also have clear ones as well


The Corrales win was devasting as was Gattis but I don't know if they were his best he won those very easy, your best maybe, I like seeing him work a guy that's giving him a run for his money this is where Floyd is at his best, this is where we see his game of chess and its brilliant when you understand the skill level, what he did to JMM was such high level technical boxing, people try to downplay the win because of the 2lbs, it wasn't a physical fight it was speed and reflex and Floyd toyed with one of greatest counter boxers in history, and incidentally for a trivia fact JMM was exactly the same weight against Floyd as he was KOing Manny.

People can argue all sorts of reasons why Floyd was so lucky, but you cant be that lucky, Ive been following the sport for over 50 yrs and Floyd is one of the very best Ive seen, not saying the best I don't really have a best because at their best weight all great fighters can win on any given night against any other great. The thing is prime Floyd is right in the mix with any one.

[aboutfkntime]

It’s a really really good resume. And like I said he engineered it beautifully and I’m big fan of his craft. But the truth and narratives behind what’s on paper rarely goes hand in hand. Out of the 3 wins you mentioned I give him the most credit for beating Canelo, only thing to say about it is the catchweight. Regardless I’m sure he’d beat Canelo at any weight, but why make it an issue in the first place when he had fought at full 154 before? The fault goes to him.


I didn't say any of those were is best wins nobody can define what best really is, they why I said those fights were the most memorable for me.

Nobody is trying to say Oscar was at his best, but there is also a point where their primes were not as far split as what people try and make, there were a lot of handicaps in this fight for Floyd, of which Manny had none and it was Oscar that was handicapped, also this Floyd beat Oscar nearly 2 yrs earlier than Manny did, I believe fully that the Oscar Floyd beat would not have lost to Manny, it was only Floyds speed and defense that got him the fight, it was a big win because of that handicap, Floyd looked the softest and most puffy in that fight than Id ever seen before, that's was not near the best FM, I thought it was a really good win his brain won the fight.

Canelo I agree the CW helped, he even said it himself when asked , " It will make the task easier " was his answer.
Why did he take the CW you ask, because he was FM-TBE and Canelo shot his mouth off so Floyd used it to his advantage. With the TBE bs it doesn't matter if we don't agree, thing is he believes it and that creates a power within that makes him the boss in negotiations, if you try and fck with him like Canelo and Maidana did that power comes out and dictates, there is a psychology behind everyone and Floyd knows and believes in his place.


Cotto was already pummelled by pac and marg. and jr middleweight wasn’t really his best weight.


Cotto was not the same mentally after Margs cheat beating, the only way Cotto could conquer his demons was by beating Margarito and he did, that fight relit the fire in Cotto , and he was in awesome shape to win that fight, find be another fight where Cotto was that strong for length and pace of fight, he came to win and was prepared to win.... Fighters are not this robot where they are the same level in every fight, some fights they are in the zone and others they way outside it, Cotto was in the zone and Floyd did great to win that fight on that night.


Now stop acting like Floyd is a small guy when he fought this dudes, it is only natural for an athlete’s body to grow as they age, and he has grown into a full welter. Or else he would have made the 144 catchweight with Marquez.



Floyd Manny JMM are real LWs , ODH Mosley were JWWs fighting as LWs, they are bigger across the scale, Floyd Manny and JMM were only 2-4 pounds away from each other from 130 to 147.

Floyd had been out for nearly 2 yrs so his body had grown a little as you say, he weighed in at 146, same weight he weighed in against Judah and a few others.
I believe he tried to drop in on 144 but his body wasn't dropping the same that last bit stuck and it was either boil it of or pay , he paid like any power player would.

Floyd’s best win remains to be against a prime corrales. But like I said it’s a very great resume.
He has a case on claiming the goat status, but the critics will also have clear ones as well


The Corrales win was devasting as was Gattis but I don't know if they were his best he won those very easy, your best maybe, I like seeing him work a guy that's giving him a run for his money this is where Floyd is at his best, this is where we see his game of chess and its brilliant when you understand the skill level, what he did to JMM was such high level technical boxing, people try to downplay the win because of the 2lbs, it wasn't a physical fight it was speed and reflex and Floyd toyed with one of greatest counter boxers in history, and incidentally for a trivia fact JMM was exactly the same weight against Floyd as he was KOing Manny.

People can argue all sorts of reasons why Floyd was so lucky, but you cant be that lucky, Ive been following the sport for over 50 yrs and Floyd is one of the very best Ive seen, not saying the best I don't really have a best because at their best weight all great fighters can win on any given night against any other great. The thing is prime Floyd is right in the mix with any one.

#levels

Hoya > Corrales
Canelo > Corrales
as do many others

his point, that Mayweather was the underdog..... is valid, but not valid enough imho

the reason why..... Mayweather had not established himself as the phenom that he is today at that point in time..... which made the Corrales win look more impressive

not decrying Corrales, or that win..... both were excellent..... just asking the question, would Mayweather have been the underdog if they fought later in his career after Mayweather had established himself.... say, after the Gatti fight?

I think not

many of Mayweather's opponents will be ranked ALL TIME higher than Corrales (RIP champ)

but yea, that was a devastating performance alright..... nobody expected that, Corrales was a killer at that point in time

outstanding post bro !

[SplitSecond]

Lol at that @ reloaded novel "Cotto was mentally damaged by the Margarito beating, the way for him to overcome his demons was beating Margarito, that's why the Cotto that Floyd beat was a prime Cotto."

This guy will literally twist and bend anywhich way to suck Floyds ****, not an impartial bone in his body when it comes to the love of his life.

[GrandmasterWang]

Mayweather's win over Castillo in the rematch was outstanding

it never gets a mention

as was his win over HOF Pacquiao

as was his win over HOF Marquez

the win over Corrales was superb..... but I will go for Hoya, or maybe Canelo..... depending on how Canelo finishes his career

but, sooooo many to choose from

Hoya at 154 was still a very live dog, HUGELY experienced, and very dangerous..... Mayweather had no real advantages in that fight other than being fresher

He loses some credit for Nelo because zombie Nelo was compromised from the weight drain. If Nelo fought at the full limit then I agree that it would outshine the Corrales fight. As it is, I feel Mayweather put on his last 'great' performance vs Canelo but it's not as great a win as the Corrales one for the reason I mentioned despite Nelo being the bigger name and tougher on paper opponent. Also... ******ly but officially..... Mayweather only has a majority decision over Canelo whereas the result of the Corrales fight speaks for itself.

If Floyd had actually made weight for Marquez like the professional he is supposed to be it would be one of his best wins, but alas he didn't do it and cheated the much smaller Marquez on the scales. This taints the win and holds it back from touching the Corrales exhibition.

Imo both Nelo and Corrales were masterpieces by Floyd. Showed his sublime talent in both fights but Corrales is above Nelo for me.

I agree no one really talks about Castillo 2. It's because so many thought he lost the first fight and Castillo bashed Floyd in the rematch far more than Nelo or Corrales were able to. Castillo made the second fight with Floyd competitive, even though it was a nice win that Floyd doesn't get much credit for.

Hoya was way past it and a split decision win.... not even close to the level of the Corrales destruction which was imo Floyd at his very best.

[dibzvincent143]

#levels

Hoya > Corrales
Canelo > Corrales
as do many others

his point, that Mayweather was the underdog..... is valid, but not valid enough imho

the reason why..... Mayweather had not established himself as the phenom that he is today at that point in time..... which made the Corrales win look more impressive

not decrying Corrales, or that win..... both were excellent..... just asking the question, would Mayweather have been the underdog if they fought later in his career after Mayweather had established himself.... say, after the Gatti fight?

I think not

many of Mayweather's opponents will be ranked ALL TIME higher than Corrales (RIP champ)

but yea, that was a devastating performance alright..... nobody expected that, Corrales was a killer at that point in time

outstanding post bro !

What kind of ****** argument is that??

Of course the win will be judge based on how it happen.
That’s why his victory over Pac will never be his best because it was 6 yrs too late and both are clearly past it especially Pac. Eventhough Pac trumps everyone in his resume.
Same reason why Duran’s win over prime Leonard climbing two divisions is considered one of the best wins ever by a fighter. Had it happened when Duran was already an established middleweight had it been a different win? Of course it would be.

It was his best win because he beat a prime dangerous fighter who he was an underdog against by an amazing KO.

His other wins albeit great as well, didn’t happen when they mattered most. Had he beat DLH when oscar was 29, it’d be his best win.
Had he beat manny in 2009 it’ll clearly trump any resume of any fighter in history.
Had he beat cotto in 2008 instead of having 2 KO losses already it be a total bad ass.

I’m trying to be fair here and you guys are straight being just fanboys.