Lomachenko "3 divisions"

[satiev1]

So, this big deal thing of Lomachenko moving up to his third division made me think... It all sounds very impressive when you say "3 divisions", but not if those 3 divisions actually should barely count as one division...

He moved from featherweight to super featherweight to lightweight. Meaning, he gradually moved from 126 pounds to 135 pounds. In other words, he now fights at 9 pounds heavier than he did at the start of his career... Is it really that big of a deal?

In UFC, you move up in weight for real. If you go up one division, you move up by 10 pounds. McGregor has moved up two divisions, 20 pounds, before...

This all makes boxers seem like divas or something. It shouldn't be that damn scary to put on a little weight. But it really isn't the boxers' fault. Yeah, I do get annoyed when I see a guy like Golovkin making 8 pounds sound like the equilavent of giving Ward the win. And yeah, I did get annoyed at Canelo for ducking Golovkin for so long (though Canelo at least manned up and did it as time passed). But again, not the boxer's fault. They have been pampered with all of these available belts and all of these weight divisions... In the future, there will probably be as many divisions as 160 lbs/162/164/166/168/170/172, etc., until boxers basically can move up and down as precisely as they want...

What fighter has won 3 titles in 3 divisions in 12 fights?

[Cutthroat]

People are flaming the OP but I think everyone agrees that there are too many weight divisions in boxing especially in these lower weight classes.

All these weight classes do is thin out the divisions leading to less talent.

Guys like Bellew or even Vlasov move up 30lbs+ but don't get as a quarter the respect as a guy like Loma moving up just 9lbs. Dwight Muhammad Qawi was a 5'5 cruiser taking on the likes of Holyfield. RJJ & Toney moved up over 30lbs in their careers, etc.

If you're as skilled as your reputation says, then fighting guys with slight physical advantages shouldn't matter that much.

[4truth]

I think the move toward limiting fighters to a 10% increase in body weight over the weight you weighed in at will eliminate a lot of the false "moving up in weight" we are seeing today.

[hugh grant]

He shouldn't/scaredd to fight old man pac at 147.
Because if you don't you won't get credit for win.. Or maybe 140.
When Pac best dlh, Dlh made all the excuses up. Pac is allowed to make same excuses should Pac lose

[RyanjLarose]

People are flaming the OP but I think everyone agrees that there are too many weight divisions in boxing especially in these lower weight classes.

All these weight classes do is thin out the divisions leading to less talent.

Guys like Bellew or even Vlasov move up 30lbs+ but don't get as a quarter the respect as a guy like Loma moving up just 9lbs. Dwight Muhammad Qawi was a 5'5 cruiser taking on the likes of Holyfield. RJJ & Toney moved up over 30lbs in their careers, etc.

If you're as skilled as your reputation says, then fighting guys with slight physical advantages shouldn't matter that much.

theres a reason for that ...9 pounds is a high percentage of weight to a guy that weighs 130 pounds...where as 30 pounds for a 175 guy isnt as big a percentage even though its more weight gained ...feel me?

[daggum]

loma has won as many titles in the original divisions as floyd. ALL TIED UP!

[Cutthroat]

theres a reason for that ...9 pounds is a high percentage of weight to a guy that weighs 130 pounds...where as 30 pounds for a 175 guy isnt as big a percentage even though its more weight gained ...feel me?

There is no actual scientific evidence for an exact % though, it seems to be all theory. Weight classes in general are all made up just like the UFC's, some didn't even used to exist.

Some guys like Toney are capable of moving up 40lbs while others like a ggg can't budge a mere 8lbs.

People say these fighters from lower weight classes are more skilled, yet there is safety as most of these guys can't crack an egg. I've seen Loma and even Mayweather get nailed with shots that'd get you knocked out in higher divisions.

[satiev1]

There is no actual scientific evidence for an exact % though, it seems to be all theory. Weight classes in general are all made up just like the UFC's, some didn't even used to exist.

Some guys like Toney are capable of moving up 40lbs while others like a ggg can't budge a mere 8lbs.

People say these fighters from lower weight classes are more skilled, yet there is safety as most of these guys can't crack an egg. I've seen Loma and even Mayweather get nailed with shots that'd get you knocked out in higher divisions.

Toney was a fat**** at hw who also tested positive for steroids. You clearly know nothing about combat sports and how weight, height, muscle mass, and body fat precentage, all play a role in determining a fighter's weightclass. You sound like an absolute noob.

[Cutthroat]

Toney was a fat**** at hw who also tested positive for steroids. You clearly know nothing about combat sports and how weight, height, muscle mass, and body fat precentage, all play a role in determining a fighter's weightclass. You sound like an absolute noob.

Practically every fighter is on some sort of PED especially in years past and JT became fat because he wasn't capable of producing testosterone from a damaged pituitary gland. The issue is you have no scientific evidence for an exact %. Weight classes are entirely made up too.

Some guys are dominant in certain weight classes because of physical advantages, they move up 1 division and they get KTFO, others are capable of seamlessly jumping multiple weight classes.

How special is it to move up 3 weight classes when a guy like Broner of all people was a champion in 4 weight classes?

[BendOver]

You do know that they do weigh ins different in the ams, don't you?

same day in. Like old time. If you weight 132 the day of the fight, that is your weight. 24 hrs weight in allows bigger fighters that can cut weight and gained back, have an advantage.