UK Fans: How Many PPV Buys Does Wilder vs Fury in Vegas Do?

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  • Vinnykin
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    #31
    Originally posted by KTFOKING
    That's what I figured, but some think the programming leading up to the fight won't be seen by as many people had the fight been on Sky Box Office.

    Random, but since we were talking about Mayweather vs Hatton, the programs leading up to the fight were great. You had the 24/7 on HBO, and I believe Sky had a few documentaries themselves.
    I think it will be a factor, but the fight is still available through the Sky red button, and to all BT subscribers online. I'd imagine they could do what ITV done with Groves/Eubank and Usyk/Gassiev and put it on the Playstation store as well?

    The 'No Filter' programming for BT is available on the website and Youtube channels any way for free.

    Either way, with a good build up and promotion it will do good numbers IMO. But obviously the bulk will be coming from the U.S if it's there.

    I'd give a top estimate of 500k buys from the U.K, and TV rights for most countryie in the world will bring in a fair amount as well.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Vinnykin
      I think it will be a factor, but the fight is still available through the Sky red button, and to all BT subscribers online. I'd imagine they could do what ITV done with Groves/Eubank and Usyk/Gassiev and put it on the Playstation store as well?

      The 'No Filter' programming for BT is available on the website and Youtube channels any way for free.

      Either way, with a good build up and promotion it will do good numbers IMO. But obviously the bulk will be coming from the U.S if it's there.

      I'd give a top estimate of 500k buys from the U.K, and TV rights for most countryie in the world will bring in a fair amount as well.
      500k in the UK is huge though. That's a little over $13 million revenue generated from the PPVs. Well, $6.5 million after the cable distributors get their share.

      If it does 300k in the states and 500k in the UK, both fighters will be walking away with $10+ million. And if Wilder gets a 60/40 split his way, he could get around $15 million. Imagine if he beats Fury and then gets the Joshua showdown? Dude will be walking away with 35-40 million after those two fights. And pretty much the same for Fury if he wins.

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      • Vinnykin
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        #33
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        500k in the UK is huge though. That's a little over $13 million revenue generated from the PPVs. Well, $6.5 million after the cable distributors get their share.

        If it does 300k in the states and 500k in the UK, both fighters will be walking away with $10+ million. And if Wilder gets a 60/40 split his way, he could get around $15 million. Imagine if he beats Fury and then gets the Joshua showdown? Dude will be walking away with 35-40 million after those two fights. And pretty much the same for Fury if he wins.
        It is huge for that time yeah, but with a proper promotion I can see this being huge in the U.K. If this is the fight to launch BT PPV then It will get substantial investment, and will be advertised all over BT channels, online and EE mobile (around 30 million customers)

        I'm not sure how it will do in the U.S, but this might be the right time to give Wilder a push there as well? Do a proper press tour in both coasts and see how it does?

        Both guys will be getting paid well regardless and having a meaningful fight, and the winner becomes the WBC and lineal champion, that gives the victor real bargaining power.

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          #34
          Originally posted by A.K
          That’s all it did in the UK? But whyte vs Parker do triple that?? Y’all are really brainwashed over there
          Why would you think a fight abroad with two foreigners at 5am in the morning would do better PPV numbers than a 10pm fight between two UK heavyweights? Are you a bit dim?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Vinnykin
            It is huge for that time yeah, but with a proper promotion I can see this being huge in the U.K. If this is the fight to launch BT PPV then It will get substantial investment, and will be advertised all over BT channels, online and EE mobile (around 30 million customers)

            I'm not sure how it will do in the U.S, but this might be the right time to give Wilder a push there as well? Do a proper press tour in both coasts and see how it does?

            Both guys will be getting paid well regardless and having a meaningful fight, and the winner becomes the WBC and lineal champion, that gives the victor real bargaining power.
            Yep, and I can't see the Fury fight not being on PPV. Both will want big money and they legitimately can sell this fight if they do proper press tours and put them on debate shows/radio shows. These two are meant for the camera and once they start talking, they may create a spark. Fury averaged over a million viewers vs Klitschko in the afternoon which is HUGE. The fight wasn't great but people will just remember Fury winning and his post fight antics and will want to see him and Wilder. Two legitimate big HWs duking it out.

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            • champion4ever
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              #36
              It will do a lot better than Golovkin/Alvarez for sure because Tyson Fury is a fellow U.K. fighter with a huge following in Great Britain.

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              • A.K
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                #37
                Originally posted by BodiesInFlight
                Why would you think a fight abroad with two foreigners at 5am in the morning would do better PPV numbers than a 10pm fight between two UK heavyweights? Are you a bit dim?
                Just proves the point that the UK is extremely biased towards their guys and are super fan boys instead of boxing as a whole we watch most your cards for the sport .

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Apperently it does matter bc Wilder wont fight a non champion for less then 15 Million ! He wont fight one for 20 .


                  Its crackhead money for Wilder unless he gets at leat 25 Million for a NON title holder against an undefeated top HW , get with the program !

                  im not following you.

                  fury said the fight is basically done. so whats your point fanboy? fury is gonna fight unlike that other guy in England. Fury beat the real Wlad anyway. you know the 10 yr reigning champion Wlad. Not the 1 yr layoff coming off of a lost wlad

                  If joshua would have accepted the biggest purse in heavyweight history we wouldnt be talking about the gypsy king now would we

                  keep hating and enjoy the heavyweight fight nobody cares about. AJ vs Pedvetkin

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                  • koolkc107
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                    #39
                    Let's factor in one or two things.

                    Showtime is owned by CBS.

                    The same CBS that broadcasts NFL football.

                    With the season coming down to the wire in December and viewership at year highs, how effective do you suppose advertising for a fight will be?

                    Suppose they do an abbreviated ALL ACCESS during halftime of some of the games?

                    Fury and Wilder running the best smack in boxing in the middle of the game?

                    What kind of US PPV number gets generated then?

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                    • TheBigLug
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                      #40
                      Fury is a big name here in the UK. He's equally as well known as Joshua in some respects (in name), but nowhere as popular or supported by the casuals. But there isn't a person that doesn't know the name Tyson Fury. He's certainly one of the most recognisable figures and names in British sport, even if it's for things out of the ring too. He makes the mainstream news and papers.

                      He's more well supported than some would have you believe too. He sold out the biggest indoor arena in the UK for his comeback and did huge TV ratings. He also did big PPV numbers v Wlad. And although Wlad is a big name in boxing, not many British people were exactly tuning in to watch him fight Pulev et al. The big PPV numbers were because Fury was fighting him.

                      He won't be selling out stadiums like Joshua, where casuals go for a night out. He won't do PPV numbers as big either. Joshua is just a rare case in the UK but Fury can draw good numbers in his own right.

                      I can't speak for USA but Fury v Wilder would definitely be a very big fight here.

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