Who ranks higher p4p of all time Bhop, Roy Jones or Pacquiao?

[Illmatic94]

Obviously Roy knew he'd struggle to make the weight because when didn't he struggle to make weight?

What was the difference between the Roy Jones fight and any of his other fights?

He nearly fainted at the weigh in? That's a new one. Do you have any evidence for that?

he was hooked to the IV right after the weigh in. then ballooned to 184 next day. he was drained and in no condition to fight.

the difference is i never heard of another fight where Toney needed IV after the weigh in.

Roy fans have always withheld credit from Tarver and Johnson due to his weight issues. with that logic and to stay consistent Roy Jones gets zero credit for beating JT.

[Sid-Knee]

Just to re-iterate; Go watch Michaelchevski vs Hill and then immediately watch Jones vs. Hill, then come back and tell me who the man was. Okay......little boy?

Haha, Who cares if Roy looked better? You don't judge who the champ is by that. Darius was the true champ who was stripped of his titles because they wanted Roy as their champ. It was bull****.

[NoConcoms]

Haha, Who cares if Roy looked better? You don't judge who the champ is by that. Darius was the true champ who was stripped of his titles because they wanted Roy as their champ. It was bull****.

No, no, no my friend.......Dariusz was stripped because he avoided Roy and any serious competition like the plague. Enough with the revisionist history here.

[NoConcoms]

I had Tarver by 3. He won the fight, man.

^That right there shows your bias. No way did Tarver win that fight that convincingly. Did you even watch the fight? 7-5 Tarver would have been a stretch.

[soul_survivor]

All are top 40 to 30 imo.

Hopkins and Pac are top 20, anything else is criminal.

Jones has a list of names he did not fight in his prime, longer than a list of names he did fight. Yes he looked great but he did so against some atrocious fighters but that is not to discount his achievements of winning belts at middle, super, light heavy and heavy....well heavy was a paper belt but whatever.

Also, Jones passed the eye test for a while but was always going to be susceptible to disciplined boxers (Tarver) and punchers. He does not rank as high outside of people who have just seen youtube videos. top 50 for sure.

[Sid-Knee]

No, no, no my friend.......Dariusz was stripped because he avoided Roy and any serious competition like the plague. Enough with the revisionist history here.

Haha, Darius was stripped because he was forced to fight a month after the hill fight, which for obvious reasons, he wasn't able to do. It had nothing to do with Roy. Roy picked those titles up by beating De valle and Johnson. Shows how much you know about that time. Kid.

[Sid-Knee]

^That right there shows your bias. No way did Tarver win that fight that convincingly. Did you even watch the fight? 7-5 Tarver would have been a stretch.

No bias at all. I just know how to score a fight. Jones lost, Tarver won. Simple. Why do you think everyone called for the rematch? Because it was a robbery.

[IronDanHamza]

I've never heard of BHOP dodging any form of drug testing. Have you?

You mean like when he refused extra drug testing for the Pascal rematch?

[IronDanHamza]

No bias at all. I just know how to score a fight. Jones lost, Tarver won. Simple. Why do you think everyone called for the rematch? Because it was a robbery.

Or because it was very close.

Not a robbery. Not even close to a robbery actually.

[IronDanHamza]

he was hooked to the IV right after the weigh in. then ballooned to 184 next day. he was drained and in no condition to fight.

the difference is i never heard of another fight where Toney needed IV after the weigh in.

Roy fans have always withheld credit from Tarver and Johnson due to his weight issues. with that logic and to stay consistent Roy Jones gets zero credit for beating JT.

Ok but do you have any actual evidence that he was hooked up to an IV? And if he was how do you know that's the only time he did?

And do you have any evidence that he nearly fainted at the weigh in? As even for Toney apologist standards I have never even heard that one.

He ballooned up because that is what he did. He always ballooned up after the weigh in.

There is literally no difference. Literally, there is no difference. If anything, he had to lose LESS weight at 168. Which conveniently was his excuse for all his piss poor performances at 160 and at 160 is when he was supposed to be in shape.