Who ranks higher p4p of all time Bhop, Roy Jones or Pacquiao?

[dibzvincent143]

Clear cut PACMAN, Jones then Hopkins.

If both retired during their peaks then they’re probably theoritically inside top 10. It affects people how you end your career, even if how much objective they try to be.

[IMDAZED]

The last time Roy had been hit flush and hard by an opponent before the Tarver fights was in 97 by Montell Griffin in the first fight. The Del Valle punch didn't look as hard, but obviously it was enough to knock him down and daze him, but Griffin in the first fight was hitting roy flush with that left hook counter. He couldn't miss. And Roy was pfp the #1 fighter in the world above all competition. There was even talk of him fighting Lewis and Tyson but when Tarver, who had been chasing him for years, knocks him out, he was "old". He had been in absolutely no wars whatsoever prior to his first fight with Tarver. That was the first war he had ever been in lol. So it's not like he had his career beat out of him. he just never had a chin and he cherry picked for a large part of his career. And that leads me to believe that he was getting ko'd in sparring and didn't believe in himself during his career. We don't know

Roy was hit with several big lefts in the Del Valle fight in rounds prior to the eighth. He also ate a lot of shots in the first Tarver fight. And several others.

[stuff jones]

Roy
Manny
Bernard

[McNulty]

They did spar I believe, I can't say when.

Could be wrong, going off memory.

They didn't otherwise it would be somewhere on Google. I've opening bunches of historical links and Control+F searched the proper query (spar, sparring, etc) with zero results. Not on Boxrec, wiki, or through several (3) pages or several search queries via Google.

Maybe you're thinking of Jimmy Ellis?

[-Kev-]

Lets list their best wins

Manny

Barrera
Morales
Cotto
Jmm

those his top 4 IMO

now list the others top 4 wins

Toney
Hopkins
Hill
McCallum

Btw, the McCallum that Roy beat was better than the Cotto Pac beat, by quite a margin.

[boogbx]

Pacman
Roy Jones jr
Hopkins

[IronDanHamza]

They didn't otherwise it would be somewhere on Google. I've opening bunches of historical links and Control+F searched the proper query (spar, sparring, etc) with zero results. Not on Boxrec, wiki, or through several (3) pages or several search queries via Google.

Maybe you're thinking of Jimmy Ellis?

Just because it's not on a google search doesn't mean it didn't happen.

But I could be mistaken now I'm thinking about it.

[Blond Beast]

Roid. Feel like he had the high score at his best.

[Illmatic94]

Right an article which quoted James Toney, a habitual excuse maker.

I will take from your refusal to answer the question that you don't have any evidence that he nearly fainted at the weigh in.

Ok again when didn't Toney kill himself to make weight and pile it on after the weigh in?

Ok you're trolling now.

I just quoted out of Roy's own mouth he knew of JT's weakened state. Apparently back then boxers were more honest. In today's social media age no way Roy openly acknowledges Toney was weak and a walking corpse.

Lets keep it simple.. as simple as ABC

Roy's fans give Tarver and Glen Johnson zero credit for beating him due to Roy's weight issues.

Therefore to be fair and consistent RJJ gets zero credit for beating JT, a corpse.

It's an overrated win. Means nothing. And Hopkins was not prime in 1993. that Hopkins victory wasn't even seen as a big deal when it took place. during Larry Merchants introduction for Roy he said "we don't know if he's for real or a fraud." this is after he beat Bhop, proving it wasn't the career defining fight Roy's fans claim it is.

That win was turned into something else based on what Hopkins accomplished years later.

The best win Roy had in the 90's was Griffin. his best win in the 2000's was John Ruiz. after that it was a 10 plus year stretch of getting laid out and whooped on across the globe. no way in hell is he ranked above Hopkins.

Throw in the fact he was popped for anabolic steroids in 2000 and got the issue brushed under the carpet until his opponent revealed it in 2003. Ironically this is the last year Roy enjoyed as a top fighter in boxing. This is more evidence than the rumors against Pacquiao in 2010.

But I proved to you JT was drained and Roy knew it. Using Roy fans logic of denying credit due to weight issues RJJ deserves ZERO credit for beating JT.

Hopkins win over Tito in 2001 shts on Roy's overrated victory over a drained weakened Toney.

[Thraxox]

Toney
Hopkins
Hill
McCallum

Btw, the McCallum that Roy beat was better than the Cotto Pac beat, by quite a margin.

40 year old mcallum