Disspelling the Floyd-USADA Conspiracy

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #61
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    No. Floyd's name was secret. The TUE analysis took place weeks later when all the information had been gathered and submitted.
    Call me a bit ignorant, but I don’t understand.

    You have to get a medical exemption in order to get a TUE.

    How can he get the medical exemption weeks later? What if that analysis (of what?) came back saying there was no need for a TUE?

    Or maybe you didn’t understand my point?

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    • WesternChamp
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      #62
      see what i mean, when it comes to floyd, he doesnt have to follow the same procedure as the last time or from anyone else who suffer the same problem as floyd.

      but when it comes to manny, he has to follow what the last person with the same problem went through or else it's fake!

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        #63
        Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
        You truly think he was dehydrated, dude get real. Every cheater has an excuse and has a story to cover there claim. You say he was dehydrated for the Moseley fight. Dude was on PED back then too. So just stop. Your GOD took PED’s and that’s that.

        Now get over it.
        Yep, the veteran ATG who should know his body well enough not to get severely dehydrated prior to the biggest fight of his career suddenly needs an IV to recover? We are supposed to believe he made some rookie mistake and allowed himself to be dehydrated to the point he needed an IV? He could have drank a couple of Gatorades and been just fine. He was obviously masking something, probably whatever it was that jammed up his su****ious testosterone levels.

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        • True-Boxing-Fan
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          #64
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          Yep, the veteran ATG who should know his body well enough not to get severely dehydrated prior to the biggest fight of his career suddenly needs an IV to recover? We are supposed to believe he made some rookie mistake and allowed himself to be dehydrated to the point he needed an IV? He could have drank a couple of Gatorades and been just fine. He was obviously masking something, probably whatever it was that jammed up his su****ious testosterone levels.
          It’s about common sense. Floyd’s nut huggers will go to the extreme to protect him. They even try and become PED experts so they have an angle to excuse his IV use.

          Floyd was a known gym rat who treated his body with extreme care and always trained the right way. Even when he didn’t have a fight he treated his body with care and kept himself in shape and never ever let his body weight ballon up.

          But for the biggest fight of his career he’s all of a sudden going to go against everything he’s done in the past and put his body in such jeopardy that he’d let it get so dehydrated just one day before his fight that he’d need an incredible amount of IV fluid to be able to recover. Come on now. Common sense.

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            #65
            Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
            Mind linking that up, cause from what I remeber when I looked this up myself back then is that IV were allowed under special situations but their was a limit to the amount of ML you can use and its was like 500ml max (example cant remebeer but I remeber it wasnt 750ml) etc.
            Mind linking up that there was any limit at all back then? Because at the time, there were no NAC rules prohibiting IV and NAC said publicly Floyd did nothing wrong. They may have changed the rule to 500 later, but at the time IV was standard procedure for rehydration among fighters in Vegas.

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              #66
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              Call me a bit ignorant, but I don’t understand.
              No problem, happy to explain.


              You have to get a medical exemption in order to get a TUE.
              Right, but sometimes you unexpectedly need something that is normally prohibited, so you retroactively apply for a TUE and have to prove that it was for legitimate medical reasons that couldn't have been foreseen in time to apply in advance.


              How can he get the medical exemption weeks later? What if that analysis (of what?) came back saying there was no need for a TUE?
              If the TUE committee determines the anonymous athlete doesn't meet the criteria for a TUE, the athlete is given a doping violation. The fight could have been changed to a no contest and Mayweather would have been suspended.

              But that committee has no idea who the athlete is. They're just analyzing the medical information.

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              • 4truth
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                #67
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                Mind linking up that there was any limit at all back then? Because at the time, there were no NAC rules prohibiting IV and NAC said publicly Floyd did nothing wrong. They may have changed the rule to 500 later, but at the time IV was standard procedure for rehydration among fighters in Vegas.
                It's not anywhere near 500 and never has been, try 50

                https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau..._july_2016.pdf

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
                  It’s about common sense. Floyd’s nut huggers will go to the extreme to protect him. They even try and become PED experts so they have an angle to excuse his IV use.

                  Floyd was a known gym rat who treated his body with extreme care and always trained the right way. Even when he didn’t have a fight he treated his body with care and kept himself in shape and never ever let his body weight ballon up.

                  But for the biggest fight of his career he’s all of a sudden going to go against everything he’s done in the past and put his body in such jeopardy that he’d let it get so dehydrated just one day before his fight that he’d need an incredible amount of IV fluid to be able to recover. Come on now. Common sense.
                  As much water as that guy drinks it makes him suspect

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                  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Mind linking up that there was any limit at all back then? Because at the time, there were no NAC rules prohibiting IV and NAC said publicly Floyd did nothing wrong. They may have changed the rule to 500 later, but at the time IV was standard procedure for rehydration among fighters in Vegas.
                    well i asked you cause you really just agreed with me, just based your sattement on the timeline of it all as to when it was and not available.

                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    At the time, IV, in any amount, for any reason, was allowed under NAC rules.
                    so if you cant provide a link to prove it, thats fine. Just dont run around speaking like you stating facts cause till you can back it up, you just stating opinions.

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                    • daggum
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                      #70
                      the man was near death. dropping 2 pounds almost killed him. why shouldn't he be allowed to pump himself full of IV fluid? he just wants a fair fight!

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