Disspelling the Floyd-USADA Conspiracy

[WesternChamp]

Mind linking up that there was any limit at all back then? Because at the time, there were no NAC rules prohibiting IV and NAC said publicly Floyd did nothing wrong. They may have changed the rule to 500 later, but at the time IV was standard procedure for rehydration among fighters in Vegas.

"He cannot have it done at his house and [USADA] can't authorize it.... I have specifically articulated and memorialized to USADA that [NSAC] is the sole authority that can authorize a the****utic-use exemption for a fighter in the state of Nevada," Bennett said. "USADA never told us prior to the IV that they had their own TUE, and they never kept us informed about it being administered.

"If they think they can do what they want, where and whenever they want in the state of Nevada, they are grossly mistaken."

[BattlingNelson]

No problem, happy to explain.




Right, but sometimes you unexpectedly need something that is normally prohibited, so you retroactively apply for a TUE and have to prove that it was for legitimate medical reasons that couldn't have been foreseen in time to apply in advance.




If the TUE committee determines the anonymous athlete doesn't meet the criteria for a TUE, the athlete is given a doping violation. The fight could have been changed to a no contest and Mayweather would have been suspended.

But that committee has no idea who the athlete is. They're just analyzing the medical information.

So Floyd applies for a TUE on the day before the fight, takes a massive IV and is allowed to fight without anyone knowing whether he is violating the doping regulations or not. That would first be known weeks after the fight has happened! Wow! That’s a sick system don’t you think?

[b00g13man]

No problem, happy to explain.




Right, but sometimes you unexpectedly need something that is normally prohibited, so you retroactively apply for a TUE and have to prove that it was for legitimate medical reasons that couldn't have been foreseen in time to apply in advance.




If the TUE committee determines the anonymous athlete doesn't meet the criteria for a TUE, the athlete is given a doping violation. The fight could have been changed to a no contest and Mayweather would have been suspended.

But that committee has no idea who the athlete is. They're just analyzing the medical information.

I seriously can't believe that you have to explain any of this to anyone. You have to be extremely simple to need this.

[b00g13man]

So Floyd applies for a TUE on the day before the fight, takes a massive IV and is allowed to fight without anyone knowing whether he is violating the doping regulations or not. That would first be known weeks after the fight has happened! Wow! That’s a sick system don’t you think?

A TUE takes ~21 days to get approved. Do you propose that an athlete that is deemed in need of urgent medical attention waits 21 days to receive said attention? If not, please describe a process that would suit such a situation.

[BattlingNelson]

A TUE takes ~21 days to get approved. Do you propose that an athlete that is deemed in need of urgent medical attention waits 21 days to receive said attention? If not, please describe a process that would suit such a situation.

If the athlete is ill, he shouldn’t compete.

[Real King Kong]

A TUE takes ~21 days to get approved. Do you propose that an athlete that is deemed in need of urgent medical attention waits 21 days to receive said attention? If not, please describe a process that would suit such a situation.

that wasn't the case with Floyd. it was shady af, and I wish people would stop defending it. just call it what it is...suspect. nobody can definitively say Floyd cheated, so it's not like it's some type of admission that he was dirty.

[N/A]

It's not anywhere near 500 and never has been, try 50

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau..._july_2016.pdf

Apparently you are still having trouble with how letters work. NAC and WADA are two different things.

[N/A]

so if you cant provide a link to prove it, thats fine. Just dont run around speaking like you stating facts cause till you can back it up, you just stating opinions.

There was nothing in the rules prohibiting it. You are making the incorrect claim that the rules prohibited it. So show us. It's like asking me to show you where in the rules it doesn't say that you can't breathe. It would be up to you to show us where in the rules it does say that you can't breathe.

[N/A]

"He cannot have it done at his house and [USADA] can't authorize it.... I have specifically articulated and memorialized to USADA that [NSAC] is the sole authority that can authorize a the****utic-use exemption for a fighter in the state of Nevada," Bennett said. "USADA never told us prior to the IV that they had their own TUE, and they never kept us informed about it being administered.

"If they think they can do what they want, where and whenever they want in the state of Nevada, they are grossly mistaken."

But he didn't need a NAC TUE because it wasn't a prohibited method under NAC rules at the time.

USADA doesn't have the authority to exempt an athlete from NAC rules. Only NAC can do that. What you quoted is "tough" but empty language from Bennett to try to save face and distract from the fact that IV was legal in Nevada. If it wasn't, NAC would have punished Floyd. USADA TUE does nothing to protect you from NAC rules.

[WesternChamp]

But he didn't need a NAC TUE because it wasn't a prohibited method under NAC rules at the time.

USADA doesn't have the authority to exempt an athlete from NAC rules. Only NAC can do that. What you quoted is "tough" but empty language from Bennett to try to save face and distract from the fact that IV was legal in Nevada. If it wasn't, NAC would have punished Floyd. USADA TUE does nothing to protect you from NAC rules.

Yet, Bennett and commission Chairman Francisco Aguilar sharply disagree, explaining the Nevada commission has not adopted the World Anti-Doping Agency code's prohibited methods.