How overrated is Abel Sanchez as a trainer?

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  • HanzGruber
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    #31
    Poor mans freddie roach

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    • sicko
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      #32
      EXTREMELY and that is something people (myself included) been posting on this forum for awhile but I guess because he is GGG Trainer people somehow turn that into "If You're Calling Abel Sanchez Overrated Then You're Taking Shots At GGG" but no that is not the case. GGG is a excellent figher who would likely have the same success regardless of his trainer is. But Canelo and the Reynoso's are not wrong...he does talk too much but he is also an excuse maker, he put excuses in place before the fight with the "Well If he Stands And Trade..." "If He Comes To Fight" "If He Fights A Certain Style"

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      • Elroy The Great
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        #33
        most trainers are overrated

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        • Armchairhero
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          #34
          Originally posted by Elroy The Great
          most trainers are overrated
          Most boxing fans are overrated!

          Best man won on the night, why is there always a kangaroo court after a great fight night like last night

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          • Southpawology
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            #35
            If Abel tells murat he needs to throw more punches and move his head if he wants to win and murat doesnt listen is that really abels fault? The fighter has to be held responsible as well

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            • Elroy The Great
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              #36
              Originally posted by Armchairhero
              Most boxing fans are overrated!

              Best man won on the night, why is there always a kangaroo court after a great fight night like last night
              wtf are you on about ?

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              • Tom Cruise
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                #37
                Nah I think he is a very good trainer but defo has some flaws.

                His fighters seem to be able to cut the ring off if their opponents are scared of their power, if not then they can escape pretty easily.

                Gassiev was trying to herd Usyk all night with that left hook to the body trying to force OA into his right, but it never worked. Usyk adapted and then zeroed in on counters as the fight wore on. Gassiev’s feet were far too slow to keep up with an elite athlete like Usyk and he had no answers for the movement down the stretch.

                The southpaw stance was a big factor also, he was always playing catch-up with the lead foot and Usyk had his fundamentals down to a tee fighting opposite handed fighters. Not surprising considering Usyk had an extensive elite am career while Gassiev is only 24.

                You are right though, with GGG vs Canelo and Gassiev vs Usyk, his fighters seemed unable to adapt to their opponents escape routes and step across, even though they were mostly going the same way every time (Canelo to GGs right, Usyk to Gassievs left)

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                • _Rexy_
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                  #38
                  Because Gassiev lost the finals? If you're training a 200lb fighter and his opponent somehow manages to throw 970 punches over the course of the fight (average CW throws 35 punches a round, Usyk was dancing around throwing 81 punches a round)

                  How the hell do you coach against that? What's your game plan?
                  Last edited by _Rexy_; 07-22-2018, 05:48 AM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_
                    Because Gassiev lost the finals? If you're training a 200lb fighter and his opponent somehow manages to throw 970 punches over the course of the fight (average CW throws 35 punches a round, Usyk was dancing around throwing 81 punches a round)

                    How the hell do you coach against that? What's your game plan?
                    Usyk fought very well. But were there no adjustments Sanchez could have made?

                    Why was there no Plan B when it became obvious that what they were doing wasn't working?

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                    • _Rexy_
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Usyk fought very well. But were there no adjustments Sanchez could have made?

                      Why was there no Plan B when it became obvious that what they were doing wasn't working?
                      there likely was, but we don't even know what Plan A was (I doubt it was just putting his arms up and taking 950 punches)

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