How overrated is Abel Sanchez as a trainer?

[Bjl12]

In Gassiev's defense he's only 24 so there still a big window for improvement, but I agree his skill in there looked terrible.

ggg also could not cut off the ring vs Canelo without walking into counters.

And Canelo is far from the most elusive fighter...

Again Gennady is a good fighter, but like many good fighters I think he would've been good no matter who trained him.

For example, "Buboy" is training Manny and although Lucas wasn't much of a test Manny still looked great...as if it was Roach and not Buboy...because Manny was going to be good regardless of trainer.

Same for Floyd. Same for BHop. Same for Ward, etc.

[Scipio2009]

what you want to do is take a very slow reflex guy like ggg and teach him the shoulder roll and counterpunching

The Golovkin that was fighting under Universum wasn't some "slow reflex" guy; say what you want about the level of competition he was facing, Golovkin moved his head, used his feet, threw his lead jab in few different ways, changed up the speed on his shots, etc.

He wasn't Pirog fluid for an Eastern European fighter, but he wasn't a stiff either.

[Diego Rodriguez]

[QUOTE=Body Shot;18957602]I feel like he is overrated as hell. He has no game plan and has guys fighting the same way all the time, theres no plan B whatsoever.

[OCPancho]

Probably as overrated as Roach, Hunter , Garcia and the Mayweaher brothers.
Then you have underrated ones like Joe Goosen and Nacho Beristain.

[Eddy Current]

"Alright he beat the piss out of you for nine rounds. You need to at least knock him down now."

-Abel Sanchez, genius boxing take during WBSS final match 2018

[S7V7N]

His fighters tend to be one-dimensional and fight the same way.

Yes, the same way that he trains? He only trains one style...the come forward action packed "Mexican" style that he's said time & again. You can't complain that his fighters aren't doing something different, because that's what they're supposed to do!

Now, if you're criticism is how they fail to adapt to the movers? Well, this is a valid complaint but it's not the same per circumstance since fighters present different problems.

ie...Gassiev put no pressure on Usyk whatsoever. He didn't fight the same as Golovkin at all. The critique here would be that why didn't he take more risks, especially when he was constantly being tee'd off on? Abel btw had the same comment in the post fight interview.

Golovkin vs Canelo 1: Golovkin also didn't throw as much as he should of, but I think he thought he was winning easily with the jab so felt no need. In fact I'd say that he should have backed off when Canelo was on the ropes (which he did a couple times) & simply outboxed him in the center of the ring. He was winning those exchanges easily & I could see him pull the Usyk role against Saul fairly easily. This didn't win him the fight though & it's counter to his entire strategy...of wanting to create a drama show, an actual fight.

I don't think Abel is the best trainer out there because he doesn't seem to change his strategy according to the opponent/fighter but he's very good at what he does do & his fighters are highly entertaining. I'd take them over say Virgil Hunter any day, win or lose...just more fun to watch.

[pretty ste]

He always been overrated

[pretty ste]

You clearly don't know Jack about boxing GGG wasn't dominating nothing get your eyes checked casual

[Dip_Slide]

Gassiev didn't seem to be ready for that type of fight mentally, he had the wrong attitude in this fight, with a skilled guy like Usyk you can't be that inactive and that clean, they should've known that Usyk is better at all departments except maybe power so they should've fought a rough busy fight to break Usyk down and take away his speed and movement.

Either said than done though, what happened to Gassiev happened to almost all of Floyd Mayweather's opponents for example and these were partly certified hall of famers and all time greats. You can train and try to prepare as hard as you can physically, but if you're not there nentally on fight night and you're outskilled like Gassiev was, it's game over.

[Zn1]

Just checked Boxrec .
Says Canelo vs. GGG = DRAW ?

well if boxrec says it then it must be true