Mayweather and Pacquiao: Top 5 wins
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you ran out of fight. there is simply nothing in the video evidence to say floyd deserved to win. his punches didn't land cleanly for the most part. you can watch it in slow mo for yourself, you can watch the precise presenter video, watch anything. its just not there in most of the rounds(besides the dominant floyd rounds like 1, 5, 11). not much more to say than that. of course you can use your own bias to pretend a little grazing punch is equal to a flush punch that snaps your opponents head back but its futile if we are doing that.
for example i hear a lot how floyd dominated manny with his check hook..he would spin off and push manny with his open glove but problem is those aren't legal punches. the rules state: You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand. he didnt even attempt to turn the punch over and most the time he was just pushing pac in the side or back of the head with his open glove. since when did that transform into a clean punch? have you ever seen a real hook in your life? you have to lie and pretend those are hooks since you have no substance and no power punches to point to. even if you ignored the rules and counted them as punches they had absolutely nothing on them at all and didn't come close to the quality of pacs power punches.
floyd couldn't land his jab like usual because pac was countering over the top of it with his straight left. this forced floyd to put more distance between himself and pac. yes this limited pacs ability to hit him but it also limited floyds ability to hit pac with his jab like any other fight. he threw a lot of jabs but they hardly ever landed clean and a lot came up short or were slipped or blocked.
so we got grazing jabs and open handed push hooks that don't count as clean punches. where are the real power punches? i saw pacs real punches snapping floyds head around and landing flush. im just looking for the same thing for floyd and not finding it. i just watched it and saw almost nothing. or I should say I saw nothing close to what pac was doing and since pac was the guy he was fighting why was he winning by doing less? you are simply wrong if you think floyd landed better in rounds 3,4, 6-10. it just didn't happen.Last edited by daggum; 07-22-2018, 01:52 PM.Comment
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Didn't read. It's kinda depressing that you typed all of this anyway. Especially for a fight in which not one media scorecard had #48 winning LMFAOyou ran out of fight. there is simply nothing in the video evidence to say floyd deserved to win. his punches didn't land cleanly for the most part. you can watch it in slow mo for yourself, you can watch the precise presenter video, watch anything. its just not there in most of the rounds(besides the dominant floyd rounds like 1, 5, 11). not much more to say than that. of course you can use your own bias to pretend a little grazing punch is equal to a flush punch that snaps your opponents head back but its futile if we are doing that.
for example i hear a lot how floyd dominated manny with his check hook..he would spin off and push manny with his open glove but problem is those aren't legal punches. the rules state: You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand. he didnt even attempt to turn the punch over and most the time he was just pushing pac in the side or back of the head with his open glove. since when did that transform into a clean punch? have you ever seen a real hook in your life? you have to lie and pretend those are hooks since you have no substance and no power punches to point to. even if you ignored the rules and counted them as punches they had absolutely nothing on them at all and didn't come close to the quality of pacs power punches.
floyd couldn't land his jab like usual because pac was countering over the top of it with his straight left. this forced floyd to put more distance between himself and pac. yes this limited pacs ability to hit him but it also limited floyds ability to hit pac with his jab like any other fight. he threw a lot of jabs but they hardly ever landed clean and a lot came up short or were slipped or blocked.
so we got grazing jabs and open handed push hooks that don't count as clean punches. where are the real power punches? i saw pacs real punches snapping floyds head around and landing flush. im just looking for the same thing for floyd and not finding it. i just watched it and saw almost nothing. or I should say I saw nothing close to what pac was doing and since pac was the guy he was fighting why was he winning by doing less? you are simply wrong if you think floyd landed better in rounds 3,4, 6-10. it just didn't happen.
Anyway, If pacquiao landed more punches then all you have to do is ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE
ITS TIME TO SHOW AND PROVE
Stop ducking, USA #1
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Bradley is noway Pacs second best win, not even close. And no Marquez? Did they never fight/? lolFirst of, then let me make it very clear that I'm a fan of both Mayweather AND Pacquiao. But when looking at their careers, I have a very hard time defining their top 5 wins.
With Mayweather, it goes something like this (I'm probably wrong, so I hope you correct me):
1 - Pacquiao
2 - Canelo
3 - Corrales
4 - Hatton
5 - Cotto
With Pacquiao, it goes something like this (I'm probably wrong, so I hope you correct me):
1 - Barrera
2 - Bradley
3 - Hatton
4 - Cotto
5 - Morales
Please, DO NOT turn this into a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao thread. Just give your top 5 wins for both and your reasons, if you want.
It should be:
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
Oscar
Cotto
For Mayweather you have it somewhat spot on but Id take out Hatton and put in Castillo. Take out Canelo and put in Hatton.Comment
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Correct me if my memory is wrong, but didn't Marquez appear to win all of the Pacquiao fights? Long time since I saw them, I should probably rewatch them.Bradley is noway Pacs second best win, not even close. And no Marquez? Did they never fight/? lol
It should be:
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
Oscar
Cotto
For Mayweather you have it somewhat spot on but Id take out Hatton and put in Castillo. Take out Canelo and put in Hatton.Comment
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Still not seeked help then.you ran out of fight. there is simply nothing in the video evidence to say floyd deserved to win. his punches didn't land cleanly for the most part. you can watch it in slow mo for yourself, you can watch the precise presenter video, watch anything. its just not there in most of the rounds(besides the dominant floyd rounds like 1, 5, 11). not much more to say than that. of course you can use your own bias to pretend a little grazing punch is equal to a flush punch that snaps your opponents head back but its futile if we are doing that.
for example i hear a lot how floyd dominated manny with his check hook..he would spin off and push manny with his open glove but problem is those aren't legal punches. the rules state: You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand. he didnt even attempt to turn the punch over and most the time he was just pushing pac in the side or back of the head with his open glove. since when did that transform into a clean punch? have you ever seen a real hook in your life? you have to lie and pretend those are hooks since you have no substance and no power punches to point to. even if you ignored the rules and counted them as punches they had absolutely nothing on them at all and didn't come close to the quality of pacs power punches.
floyd couldn't land his jab like usual because pac was countering over the top of it with his straight left. this forced floyd to put more distance between himself and pac. yes this limited pacs ability to hit him but it also limited floyds ability to hit pac with his jab like any other fight. he threw a lot of jabs but they hardly ever landed clean and a lot came up short or were slipped or blocked.
so we got grazing jabs and open handed push hooks that don't count as clean punches. where are the real power punches? i saw pacs real punches snapping floyds head around and landing flush. im just looking for the same thing for floyd and not finding it. i just watched it and saw almost nothing. or I should say I saw nothing close to what pac was doing and since pac was the guy he was fighting why was he winning by doing less? you are simply wrong if you think floyd landed better in rounds 3,4, 6-10. it just didn't happen.
You are one delusional guy.Comment
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No offence bro but it really doesn't matter how many times you say Pac won that fight cause in the books hes down as a loss.Obviously these threads that keeps popping out who is the best between that 2, only means nothing is concluded to this day who is the best.
Me, personally, Pac won against Floyd so that already tells who is the best add the strings of defeats the thread mentioned.
Now who needs a rematch after that luck lustre marathon event for all that running and huggin'?
Floyd needs it not Manny.
Rematch will clear this even if they are old. They are both old. So may the best man win and close the curtain together as a farewell bout.
Or Pac takes an alternative route, some how destroys Crawford or Loma and Floyd will be in the rear view mirror again.
Evander Holyfield: "Manny Pacquiao defeated Floyd Mayweather"
Lomachenko after watching the fight LIVE: Manny Pacquiao beat floyd Mayweather
https://********/cLZcA8MGm7w
Nothing gonna change that bruz.Comment
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