Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Deontay Wilder Would Knock Joshua Out in 3 Rounds!

[asotgod123]

It's still a contract for $15m. I can't see Wilder boosting his revenue that high in one fight given that all of the best options in the division are tied up. The best name he could fight would be Ortiz rematch. That's not going to do a great deal for his earning potential.

I'd sign for the $15m. Even if Joshua got KOd by Povetkin, it's still a big payday

If Eddie and AJ were truly looking to make the fight, why not offer Wilder a split? Wilder will NEVER sign off for a fight with AJ without a split. You can write that down. Does not matter what Wilder or AJ make right now - what matters is what they could make together. Since you are an AJ fan, ask Eddie and AJ to honor their own words too. They have 2 options:

1. Give Wilder any % provided AJ takes that in the rematch when Wilder whoops him (easy you will think but not for Eddie).

2. Give Wilder a reasonable and respectable split (60/40 or 55/45 - nothing less) with winner taking the greater split in the rematch.

Lastly, rematch without conditions for both or no one gets a rematch.

In a fight potentially worth over $100 mil, AJ wants to get over $80 mil. Who does he think he is?

[asotgod123]

Wilder would be a total fool to sign now for a fight almost a year in advance, being a flat fee. Yes, it is much more than he has made in the past, but so is $50 million plus PPV for Joshua.

Wilder agreed to the $15 million IF it was the next fight. Now Hearn says it was the WBA pressing them so they ran out of time. They had 24hrs? BS, as they signed about 2-3 weeks later. WBA would have gladly given an extension for a unification that would give undisputed status.

Hearn knows giving Wilder even a % of even 35-40 would be much greater than $15 mil in a fight that is likely to build until next year. If Wilder accepts a flat fee, he has absolutely no motivation to help promote the fight.

Well said!

[markther]

am sure you have an idea whose table the contract is.
It's just a signature away and all these assumptions will be a thing of the past.
Many have predicted AJ to fall, many have failed.

He hasn’t fought anyone like Wilder yet who can drop him, seriously hurt him, and finish him right away. He better protect that damn chin. Wilder is no “aging” Wladimir or any of the bums Joshua has fought so far. And Joshua ducked Ortiz, who probably would have knocked him out too-LOL! And see the comment posted before this one at 11:45 am; I echo those sentiments. Fast Eddie-lol

[brettWall]

Sadly, Wilder doesn't have that kind of confidence.

Otherwise, he would have signed the contract, beat the guy and become the instant A-side. Then he gets to dictate the terms and make them beg for it.

At this point the thought of losing terrifies him, so he wants to get paid as if it's his last fight.

Very sad for boxing.

[Noelanthony]

Umm no, this guy is a fighter who has fought for a long time and who knows and understands boxing.

He absolutely was not hating or disrespectful, he explained how and why he feels the way he does about the fight and I agree.

And yeah he punched Wilder for however many seconds and still couldn’t get him on the ground so yeah he knows what he is talking about from his vast experience.

That makes him an expert, so why shouldn’t he say what he thinks when asked a question?

And I’m sure you would of got Wilder out of there if it was you hitting him right?

If I said I could , would you believe me? So what I think is irrelevant. Also weaker opponents have put Wilder on the floor so what does that say about Ortiz power considering he had target practice for 50 seconds. Yes you can call Ortiz an expert in his craft and he can definitely give precise knowledge into how powerful or awkward Wilder is first hand but the fact that he has never sparred or been in the ring with Joshua is opinion doesn’t count for sh#t so you can keep agreeing as much as you want. I mean I’m not even calling him a hater because he is entitled to his opinion but he will sound like a right Di#k saying Joshua will beat Wilder because theoretically 2 people can then beat Ortiz. Exhaustion and over confidence defeated Ortiz. I felt sorry for him knelt on the canvas with snot on his nose like the cover of platoon. You Americans worship that victory. However that performance tells me you stun him and he freezes like a deer caught in headlights. Again I’m not an expert so sign the damn contract ,bad boy

[Noelanthony]

Know you love AJ but no need to lie. Wilder was hit more than once in 43+ seconds on the chin. In fact, he got hit with a right hook which caught him off guard and then he backed up only to be hit by Ortiz with a left that stunned him and caused him to lose his faculty for a few.

“Lose his faculty for a few” ..... for a few what? Lol

I said 50 seconds you contest that and say 43+ seconds........ so are we saying 43.2 seconds or 43 + a few more seconds.

I’m not a AJ lover I support him but if I see any flaws in his game against Povetkin my money goes on Wilder vs Joshua. I bet heavy fight night and all I care about is making my so if I bet on Wilder you better believe I will support him fight night. However he is vulnerable and Joshua takes him out. He has powerbut in one hand and he is very athletic but if one has any brains you nullify his strengths. Ortiz done it wonderfully but didn’t have the size the length and the stamina to sustain it

[Noelanthony]

If Eddie and AJ were truly looking to make the fight, why not offer Wilder a split? Wilder will NEVER sign off for a fight with AJ without a split. You can write that down. Does not matter what Wilder or AJ make right now - what matters is what they could make together. Since you are an AJ fan, ask Eddie and AJ to honor their own words too. They have 2 options:

1. Give Wilder any % provided AJ takes that in the rematch when Wilder whoops him (easy you will think but not for Eddie).

2. Give Wilder a reasonable and respectable split (60/40 or 55/45 - nothing less) with winner taking the greater split in the rematch.

Lastly, rematch without conditions for both or no one gets a rematch.

In a fight potentially worth over $100 mil, AJ wants to get over $80 mil. Who does he think he is?

What worth over 100 million in the U.K. too?... Even you know that is nonsense because if it was why have we been going on about Joshua being out of his mind Declining 50 million to fight in the states when he can as you are alluding to make 80 million in the U.K. and fight amongst his fans.

Kindly recognise my memory for me ,what was the percentage between Pac-Man and Mayweather considering they were both PPV stars. Wilder is worth 45% but at the very least 40 %. One is not offered a percentage according to how dangerous or how hard they can punch.

Ortiz received how much compared to wilder?. I’m with you on the flat fee but you are smoking if you think he deserves 45%. He agreed a flat fee now he automatically deserves 50/50 because he didn’t sign it

[asotgod123]

“Lose his faculty for a few” ..... for a few what? Lol

I said 50 seconds you contest that and say 43+ seconds........ so are we saying 43.2 seconds or 43 + a few more seconds.

I’m not a AJ lover I support him but if I see any flaws in his game against Povetkin my money goes on Wilder vs Joshua. I bet heavy fight night and all I care about is making my so if I bet on Wilder you better believe I will support him fight night. However he is vulnerable and Joshua takes him out. He has powerbut in one hand and he is very athletic but if one has any brains you nullify his strengths. Ortiz done it wonderfully but didn’t have the size the length and the stamina to sustain it

My focus was on your statement that Wilder was only hit once on the chin in 50 seconds. That is an inaccurate statement. You can watch the replay and let me know if you still stand by that. You think Wilder is vulnerable. I will be here when the fight gets made, will bet heavily on Wilder because contrary to your belief, it is my opinion that Wilder obliterates AJ in under 6 rounds. Every major advantage sans technique and weight are to Wilder's side, including the intangibles.

[asotgod123]

What worth over 100 million in the U.K. too?... Even you know that is nonsense because if it was why have we been going on about Joshua being out of his mind Declining 50 million to fight in the states when he can as you are alluding to make 80 million in the U.K. and fight amongst his fans.

Kindly recognise my memory for me ,what was the percentage between Pac-Man and Mayweather considering they were both PPV stars. Wilder is worth 45% but at the very least 40 %. One is not offered a percentage according to how dangerous or how hard they can punch.

Ortiz received how much compared to wilder?. I’m with you on the flat fee but you are smoking if you think he deserves 45%. He agreed a flat fee now he automatically deserves 50/50 because he didn’t sign it

Because it is an AJ-Wilder fight, I can see PPV between 1.5 - 2 million, probably closer to the upper end. That only happens because it is Wilder. Further, there will be PPV in the US as well due to the fight being a unification (provided both guys don't lose before then). The PPV in the US is also mainly due to Wilder.

To AJ's credit, the gate in UK is all due to AJ. No debate about that but to get the right amount of PPV, he needs Wilder. That's why he deserves 40%. Then add in the fact that Wilder is the longer reigning champion, the most prestigious belt, that takes Wilder up as well. For the fight in the UK, I can see the total UK and US revenue between $75 - $90 million. Here is my breakdown:

If AJ-Wlad grossed up to $53 million without US PPV and all 4 belts on the line, then adding in another 20 million for US ppv (about 300,000 ppv - conserative by the way) + sponsorship and TV rights globally (say another $10 mil), we are already around $80+ mil. Why then should Wilder receive only $15 mil of the purse?

[juggernaut666]

Sadly, Wilder doesn't have that kind of confidence.

Otherwise, he would have signed the contract, beat the guy and become the instant A-side. Then he gets to dictate the terms and make them beg for it.

At this point the thought of losing terrifies him, so he wants to get paid as if it's his last fight.

Very sad for boxing.

He wouldn't have to do anything bc team Joshua had a rematch 50 % claus IN the states attached to it with a Wilder win even though he has made next to nothing for a 7 title defense U.S HW champion !

Karma tends to show up at times , he better hope he doesnt get knocked out before then bc he will look like a complete 100% idiot not just a 3/4 one !