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  • Originally posted by TheUptownKid View Post
    I wouldn’t call Joshua’s camp initiator of anything, but they did finally come to the table after years of wilder asking for a fight. And why give Parker 33% in what seemed a routine negotiation and not give a bigger world champ whose fight would be more lucrative a similar percentage? It seems untoward.
    Joshua team opened negotiating ,thats initiating !

    Call outs on social media dont count , actual offers do and scheduled meetings like the ones Finkel cancelled ! lol


    15 Million IS 30% of 50 Million .

    33% of a Parker fight is about 7 Million generated .


    This is basic math when comparing two seperated Parker and Wilder fights .


    33% of a Joshua vs Wilder fight is almost 17 million based on 50 Million .
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-14-2018, 06:25 AM.

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    • Originally posted by TheUptownKid View Post
      Getting his name out there for what? He only wants one fight but Parker and klitschko has a different experience than this and neither took a flat fee
      Get his name out there for exposure ie boxing headlines . He mentions Joshua every interview but when he has a contract infront of him he wants 50/50 . It’s bullshiz

      He’s basically trying to piggy back off Joshua’s name

      Many fighters have done it over the years like khan calling out mayweather for 10 years etc

      If he wanted the fight he would take offer of 5 x what he’s ever been paid and the chance to own the other three belts

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      • Aj fans are worse than floyds... Lmao

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        • Originally posted by TheUptownKid View Post
          I wouldn’t call Joshua’s camp initiator of anything, but they did finally come to the table after years of wilder asking for a fight. And why give Parker 33% in what seemed a routine negotiation and not give a bigger world champ whose fight would be more lucrative a similar percentage? It seems untoward.
          Wilder didn't initiate a damn thing all he did was shoot off his mouth for years about fighting this fighter or that fighter but never ever even made a formal offer to fight.

          Before Joshua/Wlad he said he was going there to let the winner know he was next and what did he do, said he'd need to fight Parker first and then called out Bellew, lmao.

          He called out Parker again to unify but not once did his team call Parker, Higgins or anyone at Duco Events. In fact it was Parker's team that reached out to make the fight and they only got a response after Higgins said publicly he had approached them but hadn't heard back.

          Wilder then blows more hot air about how Joshua should fight him next not Parker when Joshua/Parker was being negotiated. Did Wilder's team once pick up the phone or even send an email about a proposed fight, nope not even once.

          I wouldn't call the Parker negotiation routine it was drawn out compared to other Joshua fight negotiations with a lot of media attention and grandstanding on both sides, remember the video Duco made or the call out about Joshua's chin? There was one point around Christmas it looked like it might not happen.

          All Wilder had to do was undercut Parker take a smaller percentage than Parker would agree too, 30% would of been enough and he could of secured a fight earlier in the year but he refused to do so. And now he's left in a worse negotiating position with Joshua with an extra belt and and having done another huge 1 mill plus PPV under his belt, secure in the knowledge he can make very good money vs anyone and the one guy left with another belt is making peanuts and almost lost his last fight.

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          • It must be clear to everyone that it was Wilder and his team who didn’t want it.

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            • Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
              GGG had 3 belts and had been a PPV fight Twice and did over 150k+ and was a P4P that had been paid 5 million already while Canelo had 0 belts and only did 300k recently against Smith but yet still accepts a 70/30 no rematch clause in his favor but Wilder won't accept 15mil whom his best payday is 1.5mil only has one belt and Joshua has 3 belts and got paid 8 figures a fight. GTFO with that ****. Wilder should never be compared to the Canelo GGG situation. He's too much of a ducker.
              LOL you use GGG's highest PPV #'s and Canelo's lowest I see what ya did there!

              GGG's highest pay was Brook at like what $5 million and AVERAGE was like $2 million.

              WOW!!! $500,000 less.

              GGG just got kicked off PPV and out of Vegas and couldnt even afford Spike. Had to change the ORIGINAL agreed upon offer. Vanes nuff said!

              Let that sink in a 97 mins.

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              • Originally posted by EnglishOxide View Post
                Wilder has turned down 5 career high purses to fight 2 of the top 5 heavyweights in the world because the money wasn't enough even though he only makes $2.1m.

                Facts.
                It's not a fact that he only makes 2.1. You don't know what he makes. Unless you really believe Cotto only made 700k for his retirement fight?!?

                If a fighter is obligated to accept an offer just because it's a career high, then AJ should have accepted 50 million since that's what he asked for.

                And if Hearn is telling the truth about what the fight is worth in the UK, he should offer 37.5% instead of 15 million. It's the same thing if Hearn is telling the truth and if Hearn is lying, that way Wilder won't get screwed. If Hearn really wanted to make the fight, he'd offer the percentage equivalent of what he's claiming the 15 million represents.

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                • Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                  Joshua team opened negotiating ,thats initiating !

                  Call outs on social media dont count , actual offers do and scheduled meetings like the ones Finkel cancelled ! lol


                  15 Million IS 30% of 50 Million .

                  33% of a Parker fight is about 7 Million generated .


                  This is basic math when comparing two seperated Parker and Wilder fights .


                  33% of a Joshua vs Wilder fight is almost 17 million based on 50 Million .
                  I said the same thing about GGG.

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                  • Whats messed up is PEDvetkin was considered soft when fight with wilder was announced but now hes considered one of the best?

                    Wilder was willing to fight in Peds backyard as well while AJ isnt going anywhere.

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                    • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                      you just wrote an entire breads mailbag worth of words which was completely unnecessary. Long story short, I didn't say they weren't special but said they weren't super special. Canelo is more popular than he is good and gets tremendous help from judges every big fight he's in. He may be the #5 mw right now. Joshua's biggest win is vs a 40 plus yr old who was coming off a loss and inactivity. He hasn't done enough to pull this mega diva status but like Canelo, his fan base will look past that and support them blindly.
                      With the judges help or not, there isn’t a single fight Canelo has won that he shouldn’t have. Not agreeing with the GGG decision doesn’t make it wrong. Winning a fight isnt the same as winning a boxing match. There are different variables as to what people score in a point based system.
                      Neither you nor myself like the way judging can sometimes go but outside of that Mayweather score, I can see the rest (unless there’s one I’m missing.)

                      Now, who are the four better MWs than Canelo that aren’t GGG because they drew.

                      Aj deserves his stardom as well.

                      The problem with your view is that you get too into your feelings and start saying crazy things like people will “blindly” follow others.

                      It’s not about being blind or not, it’s about a combination of entertainment, charisma, and skill.

                      Has it ever occurred to you that some people might just LIKE to watch someone fight?

                      No one is claiming that Canelo is the GOAT but there is a certain allure/magnetism about his style that people just like. People just like him man.

                      Same for Joshua.

                      Your viewpoint is so bitter, jaded, and entitled that you just lack the big picture imo.

                      Look, no one says AJ is Ali. No one claims he has that resume. You can discredit Wlad and sure, he’s an old guy coming off a loss to a gypsy who had a mental break down..but you know what? He’s still Wlad and it’s the best next thing to have happened after the Fury debacle.

                      You dont think the average person just thinks it’s really f ucking cool that their countryman who just represented them in the olympics and won gold (IN LONDON so everyone saw) has gone pro, is knocking everyone out and quickly won a hw title? And now he fights Wladimir and has a classic, high drama, elite level hw fight where both men showed their mettle?

                      The average fan doesnt care avout c unty debates like us. We’re not average fans here. Most of us here have either boxed and/or have developed a good knowledge over a long period of time.

                      It’s not always about who WE know is the best when it comes to star power. It’s about being the best that people know.


                      You gonna order the 4* rated item on amazon with one review and very little info or the 4* one with 4000 reviews with a lot of questions answered?

                      It never happens by accident. Aj and Canelo are legit as f uck and in the conversation as the best AND people love them. And sometimes that’s enough man.


                      And my bad about the long posts. When I’m real busy I have to come back to my posts and do them piece by piece and end up not realizing how long winded my s hit is and refuse to delete the rest. Thanks for respecting enough to read my s hit

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