Can AJ's chin withstand Wilder's power?

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  • NearHypnos
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    #41
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    AJ doesn't have the greatest defense and Wilder, for all his crudity and supposed lack of skill, has never failed to land his powershots against ANY grade of opponent.

    Joshua will have to find a way to take that power or negate it in some way.

    If he doesn't, he will lose.

    And before you say the opposite is just as true, remember that Deontay is very mobile- just as much or more so than Parker.

    The difference is, Wilder will have the reach and length to still inflict punishment while mobile, not just fight to survive as Joseph did.

    Wilder gets stopped in the UK in that Ortiz fight. Ref would call it.

    Joshua is the more polished fighter by far in terms of punch delivery and movement. Ortiz is the only one of “class” and a younger man doesnt gas in that scenario and finishes without needing the ref.

    But, Wilder IS unusually accurate at times. He’s got the ability to be mobile and use his lengthy jab but despite that, he won’t outbox a top guy with skills, evidenced by the ortiz fight.

    He’s quicker than given credit for but at the same time, very wide with the right hand. The consensus is that if Wilder wins it’s only by KO.

    Still, in an exchange, AJ gets the best of it despite Wilder technically being faster. This is just due to his straighter, crisper punches.

    Wilder is a bigger puncher though. As big a puncher as Wlad at least so he’s got Freight train right hand. But at HW, it doesnt matter if it’s a train from Wilder or a bus from AJ.

    My brain tells me Wilder is outmatched in the skill department...but my heart and gut is saying Wilder for some reason. I think he’s kind of a wildcard and can somehow make it happen. He’s skilled within his own chaotic means.

    I favor AJ of course..logically...but I dunno. It teeters for me at times. I think I might put money on Wilder depending on the odds .

    ‘MURICA

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    • filup79
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      #42
      Originally posted by Deus
      Ortiz had success hitting Wilder whilst Wilder was attempting to be mobile with him and Joshua is a hell of a lot faster than Ortiz. Pretty much every opponent Wilder has faced has had some success landing punches on him lol.

      Beyond that Wilder tends to be open for the counter when he's throwing and Joshua is quite an adept counter puncher. I'm not suggesting that that is what is going to happen... Wilder could just as easily land a crisp power shot on Joshua early and knock him out, but to try and claim that Joshua doesn't have the attributes to do the same right back to Wilder is just not true.

      It's a 50/50 fight if ever I saw one, which is why Hearn has been doing his best to make the negotiations as painful as possible...
      People forget to mention that both Ortiz and Szpilka were southpaws. An orthodox fighter will always have trouble with southpaws early on until he adjust to them. Both have the ability to win b KO, but I feel that Wilder is the harder puncher. Wilder has one punch KO and if he lands one of those bombs on AJ, its lights out. AS for AJ, his KOs come from a accumulation of punches where the ref steps in. If AJ lands and hurts Wilder, he's going to have to jump on him and get him out of there and not blow his wad.

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      • jas
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        #43
        no .

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        • Luilun
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          #44
          Originally posted by nixxter
          The British diva got almost KO'ed by old inactive washed up feather fisted bum Klitschko. Wilder was only rocked a bit by hall of famers and knockout artists Sconiers and Nichols.
          You didn't answer the question

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          • KingHippo
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            #45
            And your point being?

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            • KingHippo
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              #46
              Originally posted by Stinger1
              Bigger question is can Wilder land? He's struggled to land with a lot worse opposition.
              Lol, as if Joshua with his stiff upper body, non existent head movement, $h1tty reflexes and slow as mollasses feet was hard to hit.... You ****s are either delusional or don't know what the **** you're looking at...

              If Wilder was able to land on an superior defensive fighter like Ortiz, Joshua is toast.

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              • KingHippo
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                #47
                Originally posted by NearHypnos
                Wilder gets stopped in the UK in that Ortiz fight. Ref would call it.
                Wilder was still answering shots and still in it. In other words, you'd legitimize a robbery. So typically British lol... Weakness personified.

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                • Ake-Dawg
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SuperSuperLeeds
                  AJ's elusiveness is underated, if u watch the rest of the round with wlad from when joshua got knocked down. great survival movement, people saying wlad didnt go for the kill but i disagree, i think he couldnt land, he went for the left hook multiple times after the knockdown but joshua read it.
                  Those were some of the worst looping hooks ever thrown by a fighter the caliber of Klitschko. It didn't take much elusiveness to get away from them. Plus they were thrown one shot at a time, with no set up punch. Also, Klitschko was 41.

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                  • juggernaut666
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                    #49
                    Joshua smiled at Breazeale and Whytes shots through out the fights even after round 2....Hes taking flush Klitchko punches even when he tired out.

                    Wilder just aint going to bomb Joshua out there like many foolish ppl believe..odds are he wont hit Joshua much and will get knocked out before he even gages Joshuas movements.

                    Joshua experience getting hit hard very well exceeds Wilders whos never actually fought a true heavy handed fighter,and while Ortiz hits hard hes not too heavy handed ,not sure even if he hits harder then Whyte does now?

                    Joshua getting knocked out seems like it would happen through accumulation if it does as hes also excellent in defensive posture when hurt we've seem it already.

                    Parker landed a huge left hook AFTER a head butt and nothing. Joshua's chin shouldn't really be labeled weak and one couldn't do that being unbiased....yea? lol
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-11-2018, 01:33 PM.

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #50
                      Joshua won't attempt to see if it could withstand Wilder's power. He is no fool. If the two were to ever meet, expect AJ to avoid as many exchanges as possible and fight at a very slow pace; Similar to that of the Joseph Parker fight. He knows that he cannot match Deontay Wilder's firepower because a firefight is a fight he cannot win.

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