Let be honest, Wilder would never get 15 Mil without fighting AJ!

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    #61
    Originally posted by Stinger1
    You've truly lost the plot. Wilder is going to want 60%+ in his favour to face Fury in the UK.
    Fury is a much much easier fight than AJ.

    There are no TV complications like there would be for a fight with AJ.

    If Warren comes up with 15 million, he can get Wilder to come to the UK no problem.

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      #62
      Originally posted by koolkc107
      AJ will never be half the self-promoter Fury is (nor will Wilder be for that matter).

      And Fury makes whoever he is fighting better at PR. Who can forget that WWE style showdown Fury and Wilder had postfight?

      I think an in shape Fury is just as lucrative for Wilder as AJ from a marketing standpoint.
      Fury is a better self-promoter no doubt, but just the aura of two guys with close to 100% KO ratios at the HW division is something not even his brilliant act can overcome.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Stinger1
        Eddie and AJ aren't going to give Tyson more than 35%.
        Then the fight will never happen. Not even worth discussing.

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          #64
          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          Fury is a better self-promoter no doubt, but just the aura of two guys with close to 100% KO ratios at the HW division is something not even his brilliant act can overcome.
          You could be right.

          But Fury helped get a million Yanks to watch an afternoon fight on cable.

          Never gonna underestimate that...

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            #65
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Fury is a much much easier fight than AJ.

            There are no TV complications like there would be for a fight with AJ.

            If Warren comes up with 15 million, he can get Wilder to come to the UK no problem.
            There is no way Wilder is taking a flat fee to fight Fury if he won't against Joshua. There is probably only $20m in a Wilder-Fury fight in the UK anyway $25m max.

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              #66
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Then the fight will never happen. Not even worth discussing.
              Then Fury will have to fight bums the rest of his career for not much money.

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                #67
                Originally posted by KTFOKING
                Fury and Wilder certainly could make money in the states. Don't underestimate what Fury could do no the mic. It won't do Wilder vs Joshua type of numbers, but they will make good money off that fight.

                Which name is Joshua going to blackball Wilder with? Whyte? There a bunch of names in the HW division of similar stature. Wilder won't have trouble getting those types of names. He just isn't obviously going to be making PPV type of money vs them.

                Its not underestimating it’s realistic. Want some numbers? Just for perspective?

                Let’s go...Canelo-Cotto.

                Cotto on the down BUT had a bit of momentum again.

                Pr vs Mex rivalry. cash cow of boxing. Cotto, massive name in the states compared to Wilder and Fury.

                The hispanic boxing fanbase which is most likely the most important in boxing.

                Close to a MILLION ppv. Ppv revenue was like 55mil if I recall? 22.5 each if we just live in a fantasy world as if they pocket it all. And thats to make less than AJ made to fight Parker...


                Now tell me how Fury is going to come sing at basketball game and just fabricate all these fans because the hispanic community is NOT going to be interested in Fury-Wilder. Fans arent going to BUY that fight

                You know I mean no disrespect or offense but in WHAT world would Wilder and Fury sell 900k ppv to pull in a fantasy 22mil each?

                If we half that 450-500k, we’re looking at Floyd numbers vs Berto.

                Floyd. Mayweather.

                Look, I appreciate the enthusiasm, as we all in this forum share it. But the world just doesnt work that way.

                Hw boxing in america is NOT going to be revived by Fury with just a buildup for Wilder.
                Last edited by NearHypnos; 07-10-2018, 01:54 PM.

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                  #68
                  Wilder is in a GREAT position right now and when that fight gets made he will get MORE than the current deal he is being offered. All he has to do is keep winning and keep talking trash and it will = more $$$ for all involved

                  It will get to a point that Eddie will just have to give him what he wants because the Buzz for the fight is too loud

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by NearHypnos
                    Its not underestimating it’s realistic. Want some numbers? Just for perspective?

                    Let’s go...Canelo-Cotto.

                    Cotto on the down BUT had a bit of momentum again.

                    Pr vs Mex rivalry. cash cow of boxing. Cotto, massive name in the states compared to Wilder and Fury.

                    The hispanic boxing fanbase which is most likely the most important in boxing.

                    Close to a MILLION ppv. Ppv revenue was like 55mil if I recall? 22.5 each if we just live in a fantasy world as if they pocket it all. And thats to make less than AJ made to fight Parker...


                    Now tell me how Fury is going to come sing at basketball game and just fabricate all these fans because the hispanic community is NOT going to be interested in Fury-Wilder. Fans arent going to BUY that fight

                    You know I mean no disrespect or offense but in WHAT world would Wilder and Fury sell 900k ppv to pull in a fantasy 22mil each?

                    If we half that 450-500k, we’re looking at Floyd numbers vs Berto.

                    Floyd. Mayweather.

                    Look, I appreciate the enthusiasm, as we all in this forum share it. But the world just doesnt work that way.

                    Hw boxing in america is NOT going to be revived by Fury with just a buildup for Wilder.
                    900k-1 million? No way, but it can do 400k, I do believe that. Wilder's name is growing as he just did 1.2 million vs Ortiz on SHO. Fury is going to do his clown antics and Wilder will talk a big game on the debate shows and it will attract some casuals.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by oscar9992
                      Let be honest guys, Wilder would never get 15 Mil without fighting AJ.

                      His career high per fight was about $1,5-2 Million vs Ortiz. He won't get anything close to 15 Million without Joshua at all. He needs AJ!
                      AJ said he didn’t care abou money. That’s why he rejected the $50 million. If he doesn’t care about money why doesn’t he give wilder a bigger share of his to fight in England?......but my view is: once you start talking about fighters purses and what they should accept you are getting desperate as a fan and using it as the most pathetic excuse for your fighter to avoid a lose. Because is you REALLY thought Joshua could win you wouldn’t give a damn what he or wilder is making. You’re making up an imaginary “pricing himself out” excuse. Which isn’t valid because wilder offered AJ even more than Hearns said the fight was worth.

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