Let be honest, Wilder would never get 15 Mil without fighting AJ!

[KTFOKING]

All it needs is for Wilder to keep winning and for Fury to beat someone credible like Big Baby.

And BAM!

SHO PPV beamed live back in the States right before SuperBowl Sunday.

It'll do 100M easy...

It won't do 100M, but it could potentially do like 400-500k in the states which is still really solid. Lets split it in the middle and say it does 450k, after cable distributors get their 45-50%, that's about 16 million to be distributed to the fighters. Along with UK and international money plus the live gate both could come away with 10+. And with the way Fury could sell on the mic along with Wilder, there is a chance this fight really catches fire and does in the 600-800k range.

[koolkc107]

Youre still ignoring half the PPV money going to the distributors and providers.

Youre still ignoring Klitschko being a much bigger international star than AJ.

And even with your fantasy numbers, you get nowhere near a 50 million purse for AJ. Tyson will want close to half, if not half, of the purse. Youre not going to get Tyson to take a flat fee.

Yep.

For US PPV, promoters wind up with about 45% of the PPV gross. I suspect it is similar in the UK...

[koolkc107]

Keep dreaming. Nobody knows who Tyson Fury is in America. It would do about 150K tops on US PPV.

More folks in the US know who Fury is than AJ...

[koolkc107]

It won't do 100M, but it could potentially do like 400-500k in the states which is still really solid. Lets split it in the middle and say it does 450k, after cable distributors get their 45-50%, that's about 16 million to be distributed to the fighters. Along with UK and international money plus the live gate both could come away with 10+. And with the way Fury could sell on the mic along with Wilder, there is a chance this fight really catches fire and does in the 600-800k range.

I think it actually does better in the US than an AJ vs Wilder fight in the UK simply because more US folks know who Fury is.

But yeah, 100M is probably real in Vegas an no where else.

[NearHypnos]

Why exactly couldn't Wilder fight Fury? Put it in the UK, and I bet you could see out a stadium with that fight. Only thing is, I'm not sure if you could put it on SHO PPV if it takes place in the afternoon. Now, could that fight take place in the states and put on PPV? Possibly. But Fury isn't fighting Joshua if he is still with BT Sports....Those were the words that came out of Hearn's mouth.

5-7 fights to make 15 million? Again, what if he fights Fury next year? Joshua will have more options certainly, but he also isn't making anything close to that figure vs anyone in the near future. Not only that, but he negotiated a rematch clause in case he lost so he could walk away with 80-100 million after two Wilder fights.

Wilder hasn't made 1 million probably since 2014. Don't get the 1.25 million purse number twisted, he's not walking away from less than 2.75-3 million vs the likes of Ortiz. The way Haymon sets it up where the main attraction gets some gate revenue and merchandise/food sales as well as giving them a side check, they come out very well.

So yeah, just because Wilder isn't making 15 million vs anyone else doesn't mean he has to settle for that offer.

I get you on Wilder not settling for that deal. He shouldnt... but if it comes to that deal or NOTHING? It’s a no brainer.

The thing about Wilder fighting Fury in the UK is that Fury is the one selling out that stadium if it DID sell out. Not only that, but AJ wont let Wilder have Fury and I doubt Fury would fight Wilder first.

Aj not fighting Wilder leaves them both open, not just Wilder. Fury and his team are holding out for AJ. That’s the goal. Everyone knows it. They wouldnt jeopardize that by fighting Wilder before AJ.

Who would people rather fight? Aj every time. The payout is drastically higher. Life changing type money. Fury has a lot of money but even he wouldnt say no to AJ. Bejng realistic, why fight and lose to Wilder first when you can lose to AJ and still fight Wilder next?

AJ can blackball Wilder in this way.

Its like asking someone to pick between Canelo and Danny Jacobs or Charlo.

[pillowfists98]

More folks in the US know who Fury is than AJ...

No they don't. Wilder vs Fury would do decent numbers in the UK but it's nothing compared to Joshua vs Fury. Wilder would of course be the B side in that fight so he would not be making more than 15 million no chance.

[N/A]

Fury and his team are holding out for AJ. That’s the goal. Everyone knows it. They wouldnt jeopardize that by fighting Wilder before AJ.

Don't be so sure about that. If AJ is insisting on 70/30 in his favor, and Fury can get 70/30 in his favor against Wilder, Fury likely makes the same amount in either scenario and Wilder is perceived as the easier fight. Not to mention a Fury loss doesn't harm Warren nearly as much against Wilder as it does against AJ as Warren would be helping his fiercest rival by allowing AJ to beat Fury.

[KTFOKING]

I get you on Wilder not settling for that deal. He shouldnt... but if it comes to that deal or NOTHING? It’s a no brainer.

The thing about Wilder fighting Fury in the UK is that Fury is the one selling out that stadium if it DID sell out. Not only that, but AJ wont let Wilder have Fury and I doubt Fury would fight Wilder first.

Aj not fighting Wilder leaves them both open, not just Wilder. Fury and his team are holding out for AJ. That’s the goal. Everyone knows it. They wouldnt jeopardize that by fighting Wilder before AJ.

Who would people rather fight? Aj every time. The payout is drastically higher. Life changing type money. Fury has a lot of money but even he wouldnt say no to AJ. Bejng realistic, why fight and lose to Wilder first when you can lose to AJ and still fight Wilder next?

AJ can blackball Wilder in this way.

Its like asking someone to pick between Canelo and Danny Jacobs or Charlo.

I'm confident Wilder will walk away with a better deal than 15 million this time around. You said AJ can just blackball him? Okay, lets see him do that. Hearn's PR machine isn't going to work as well this time around.

Fury/Wilder can take place either in the UK or the states. This one probably makes more sense doing it in the states to take advantage of the PPV money.

So will Hearn do the Fury/Joshua fight even if Fury isn't with Matchroom? And Fury likely feels he schools Wilder easy so he won't think the Joshua fight is in jeopardy.

A-side has most of the value in these big fights unless you have two mega stars, but that doesn't mean the B-side just takes whatever deal is offered to them. Joshua is no punk and he's not going to like all this heat that comes his way and losing out on this type of pay day. The fight will happen in April, and Wilder will make more than 15 million. End of story.

[Madison Boxing]

wilders made his bed and he can lie in it. hes not getting his big payday any time soon, and its all of his own making

[koolkc107]

No they don't. Wilder vs Fury would do decent numbers in the UK but it's nothing compared to Joshua vs Fury. Wilder would of course be the B side in that fight so he would not be making more than 15 million no chance.

AJ has never fought here and folks really don't know who he is.

Fury vs Klitscho did over a million in viewership during that afternoon time that is supposed to be so difficult for AJ.

Fury vs Wilder would do just fine in the US...