Let be honest, Wilder would never get 15 Mil without fighting AJ!

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    #31
    Originally posted by Stinger1
    That fight would do 2m UK PPV's at $30, so there's $60m. 100,000 at Wembley at an average ticket price of $150 is another $15m. Then global TV rights would be probably be $10-15m. So that's $75-80m. Maybe you are right.... But that would be Fury pricing himself out as he doesn't deserve anywhere near 45% or 50%. AJ and Eddie aren't doing the fight at anywhere near that split.
    UK PPVs don't cost $30 and distributors & service providers take a significant cut of the money anyway.

    Klitschko vs Joshua did $10 million at the gate. There's not enough room in the venue to do $15 million at the gate.

    Klitschko vs Joshua had way more worldwide appeal than Joshua vs Fury would have. An all British match up isn't going to do double the international TV that the Klitschko fight did.

    And even with all of your inaccurate numbers, you still couldn't come anywhere close to 50 million winding up in AJ's pocket.

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      #32
      Originally posted by KTFOKING
      Oh yeah, I don't know why people are overlooking the fact this fight could take place before Joshua/Fury. You wouldn't have any network issues as it will be aired on PPV in the UK with BT Sports or Sky Box Office and on SHO in the states. If the fight takes place in the states, then it will be on SHO PPV.
      All it needs is for Wilder to keep winning and for Fury to beat someone credible like Big Baby.

      And BAM!

      SHO PPV beamed live back in the States right before SuperBowl Sunday or an off day during March Madness.

      It'll do 100M easy...
      Last edited by koolkc107; 07-10-2018, 12:36 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        There's never been a fight in the UK that paid out 100 million to the participants.

        There's absolutely no way to generate enough revenue in the UK to pay out 100 million to the participants.

        Do the math. Where is the money coming from? It's impossible.
        As if Eddie and AJ are going to give Fury 50/50 split when AJ is the star and has the belts.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Stinger1
          As if Eddie and AJ are going to give Fury 50/50 split when AJ is the star and has the belts.
          Even if they get 55/45, the math still makes no sense. When was the last time Hearn and Warren made a major fight together that wasnt mandatory?

          Tyson is lineal champion and an easy win for AJ. The fight will never happen unless Hearn overpays.

          And with Haymon having such a cozy relationship with Warren right now, Tyson vs Wilder seems far more likely than either of them fighting AJ.

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            #35
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            UK PPVs don't cost $30 and distributors & service providers take a significant cut of the money anyway.

            Klitschko vs Joshua did $10 million at the gate. There's not enough room in the venue to do $15 million at the gate.

            Klitschko vs Joshua had way more worldwide appeal than Joshua vs Fury would have. An all British match up isn't going to do double the international TV that the Klitschko fight did.

            And even with all of your inaccurate numbers, you still couldn't come anywhere close to 50 million winding up in AJ's pocket.
            Actually they do. Adam Smith of Sky has said maybe for that fight the price would need to be Ł25 but they would never go above that price because they feel it is a fair price point. So actually at today's current exchange rate it would be $33 putting PPV revenue at $66m. Exchange rate has changed since the Klitschko fight so in today's money it did nearly $11m. Increasing the capacity by 10,000 and increasing ticket prices by 20% gets you to $15m. International TV rights for the Klitschko fight were $8.5m and they will be a lot more now because Joshua is a much bigger star and I'm sure Eddie will get DAZN to throw more money at the fight than SHO and HBO did for the Klitschko fight.

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              #36
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Even if they get 55/45, the math still makes no sense. When was the last time Hearn and Warren made a major fight together that wasnt mandatory?

              Tyson is lineal champion and an easy win for AJ. The fight will never happen unless Hearn overpays.

              And with Haymon having such a cozy relationship with Warren right now, Tyson vs Wilder seems far more likely than either of them fighting AJ.
              There is no chance of Wilder fighting Fury. None. There isn't enough money in that fight. Fury will want 50/50 and me and you both know Wilder offers opponents pathetic purses hence he is yet to fight anyone of note but Ortiz, who he paid pennies to.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Stinger1
                Actually they do. Adam Smith of Sky has said maybe for that fight the price would need to be Ł25 but they would never go above that price because they feel it is a fair price point. So actually at today's current exchange rate it would be $33 putting PPV revenue at $66m. Exchange rate has changed since the Klitschko fight so in today's money it did nearly $11m. Increasing the capacity by 10,000 and increasing ticket prices by 20% gets you to $15m. International TV rights for the Klitschko fight were $8.5m and they will be a lot more now because Joshua is a much bigger star and I'm sure Eddie will get DAZN to throw more money at the fight than SHO and HBO did for the Klitschko fight.
                Youre still ignoring half the PPV money going to the distributors and providers.

                Youre still ignoring Klitschko being a much bigger international star than AJ.

                And even with your fantasy numbers, you get nowhere near a 50 million purse for AJ. Tyson will want close to half, if not half, of the purse. Youre not going to get Tyson to take a flat fee.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by oscar9992
                  Let be honest guys, Wilder would never get 15 Mil without fighting AJ.

                  His career high per fight was about $1,5-2 Million vs Ortiz. He won't get anything close to 15 Million without Joshua at all. He needs AJ!
                  Who gives a shít about who's making what? All we want to see is the fight. Its obviously not about money otherwise AJ would have signed, but AJ/Hearn are scared to lose and that's a fact.

                  If AJ loses, it's over. Sponsors, purse cut in half, put a ribbon on it.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by koolkc107
                    All it needs is for Wilder to keep winning and for Fury to beat someone credible like Big Baby.

                    And BAM!

                    SHO PPV beamed live back in the States right before SuperBowl Sunday.

                    It'll do 100M easy...
                    Keep dreaming. Nobody knows who Tyson Fury is in America. It would do about 150K tops on US PPV.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Stinger1
                      There is no chance of Wilder fighting Fury. None. There isn't enough money in that fight. Fury will want 50/50 and me and you both know Wilder offers opponents pathetic purses hence he is yet to fight anyone of note but Ortiz, who he paid pennies to.
                      Haymon and Warren are actively working on Fury vs Wilder. Even if Wilder only makes 15 million, it's a way easier fight for the same purse. Warren and Haymon are doing a lot of business right now and Wilder would gladly accept 15 million flat to fight Fury in the UK.

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