Comments Thread For: Fearless Josh Taylor Aiming To Emulate Joe Calzaghe Success

[daggum]

....at 168 he was off by 1.

His post specified at 168 as did mine or can't you read?

haha daggum is never wrong. you should have learned that by now.

[Sid-Knee]

No because I have clear evidence of Ward beating and dominating top level guys.

I don't have any evidence of Lacy beating a ranked guy let alone a top guy.

Also, that version of Bika was ranked and better than any fighter Lacy ever beat by a massive margin.

Same thing for Thurman.

Yes a lot of top fighters struggled in fights.

Can you name me a top fighter who beat no ranked fighters and struggled with unranked ones? Because that is the category Lacy fits in.

How the hell was Lacy supposed to prove himself if he didn't get the chance to after what Joe did? When you're ruined in a fight, you can't just go back to the way things were. Boxing doesn't work like that. Once you're done, you're done.

A past prime Bika was better than anyone Lacy beat by a large margin? Are you ****ing serious right now?

Do you know what, i'm just going to ignore you like i'm doing with Daggum. Both of you are seriously not with it. I'm clearly wasting my time.

[daggum]

Are you from the special class or something? Daggum was off by 1 even though you've just given 3 names at number 1 or 2? Which means he was off by 2.

God, you can't even count now.

daggum was off by none. just give me the names of the guys at 168 who were ranked #1 or #2 when calzaghe fought them or became #1 or #2 after he fought them. I count five for froch and 1 for calzaghe. your turn.

[daggum]

How the hell was Lacy supposed to prove himself if he didn't get the chance to after what Joe did? When you're ruined in a fight, you can't just go back to the way things were. Boxing doesn't work like that. Once you're done, you're done.

A past prime Bika was better than anyone Lacy beat by a large margin? Are you ****ing serious right now?

Do you know what, i'm just going to ignore you like i'm doing with Daggum. Both of you are seriously not with it. I'm clearly wasting my time.

so you admit calzaghe beat an unproven fighter. thank you. point to the poisonous scum of daggum and co.

[IronDanHamza]

How the hell was Lacy supposed to prove himself if he didn't get the chance to after what Joe did? When you're ruined in a fight, you can't just go back to the way things were. Boxing doesn't work like that. Once you're done, you're done.

A past prime Bika was better than anyone Lacy beat by a large margin? Are you ****ing serious right now?

Do you know what, i'm just going to ignore you like i'm doing with Daggum. Both of you are seriously not with it. I'm clearly wasting my time.

Lacy already proved his worth against Sheika and Vanderpool then further so every good guy he fought after that.

You say Calzaghe "ruined him". I say he was garbage already. All evidence we have points to that and no evidence we have says otherwise.

Yes that version of Bika is better than anyone Lacy beat. Are you denying that? If so, who is better that Lacy beat?

[IronDanHamza]

Do you know what, i'm just going to ignore you like i'm doing with Daggum. Both of you are seriously not with it. I'm clearly wasting my time.

I'm talking facts backed up with evidence.

Number of ranked fighters Lacy beat - 0

Number of unranked fighters Lacy struggled with pre Calzaghe - 2

Number of Top 5 guys Calzaghe beat at 168 - 2

Number of Top 5 guys Calzaghe beat at 175 - 1

Dispute those if you wish. Otherwise feel free to run along.

[daggum]

when was lacy #2??? putting me on ignore cause you are wrong. oh well. good game. poison wins

[Boxingfanatic75]

why are you talking about ducking lacy? i dont even understand where you are getting that from. he was thinking about doing that like he ducked glen johnson but warren convinced him he could win so he took the fight. LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE. it doesnt mean lacy was amazing cause calzaghe finally grew balls. he was not amazing.

he did what he should have and you want to give him special credit because he wasted the fist ten years of his career? also ggg has beaten more top 10 fighters and just fought the top 3 guys in his division(2017 rankings) so yeah i'll take ggg anyday. and when you factor in that ggg is some guy from kazakhstan and didn't have any backing from promoters, networks, or his country and calzaghe had uk and network backing and yet ended up with that crap resume?

its clear calzahe wasn't interested in becoming a great fighter until the very end of his career when he thought he could make up for treading water and doing nothing. froch is a much more accomplished fighter than calzaghe, beat better fighters, and took more risks oh wait hes from the uk so i guess i hate him? stop with your straw man arguments

It’s best to add him to your ignore list. He’s a troll, better yet a bad case of crabs you can’t get rid of.

[angkag]

Why would anybody care about that fight? Lacy wasn't some great US champion. I always see brits post about Lacy and it's a little weird lol

If that's his claim to fame, then that's not saying much. I'd much rather point to the Hopkins win. At least there was a fighter left in B-hop when Joe beat him.

Lacy isn't some win to hang your hat on imo.

You need to go back to before the fight and remember how both fighters were viewed. Go read some pre-fight articles, also look at the comments from a lot of trainers and other boxers when asked for their pre-fight pics. Lacy was the wide favourite going into the fight .

Main thing wasn't Calzaghe then going on to win as the underdog, it was HOW. The level of dominance Calzaghe had over Lacy shocked and surprised pretty much everyone at the time, to the point where Lacy went from 'superstar in the making' to being 'washed up overated cab driver' in one night.

I remember the fight well, and i remember expecting Lacy to flatten Calzaghe, and i remember the shock at what i was seeing as the fight wore on and the sight of Calzaghe just playing with him.

Easy to firget all that.

[Butch.McRae]

You need to go back to before the fight and remember how both fighters were viewed. Go read some pre-fight articles, also look at the comments from a lot of trainers and other boxers when asked for their pre-fight pics. Lacy was the wide favourite going into the fight .

Main thing wasn't Calzaghe then going on to win as the underdog, it was HOW. The level of dominance Calzaghe had over Lacy shocked and surprised pretty much everyone at the time, to the point where Lacy went from 'superstar in the making' to being 'washed up overated cab driver' in one night.

I remember the fight well, and i remember expecting Lacy to flatten Calzaghe, and i remember the shock at what i was seeing as the fight wore on and the sight of Calzaghe just playing with him.

Easy to firget all that.

I think the international posters here generally hype up wins against US based fighters a lot lol

I also remember that fight and imo beating Lacy wasn't some huge feat.
I think the perceived hyping up of Lacy had a lot to do with the opinion that Brit fighters (especially in that weight class) had a habit of "hiding out" in the UK and not truly testing themselves. So Lacy may have been getting somewhat of a boost by pundits. But he was never a special fighter to me.

I remember thinking the Hopkins win was something special though b/c B-hop went on to beat top guys after that, which meant Joe beat a live dog who was still a P4Pish caliber fighter