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  • Sid-Knee
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    #61
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    they wont be able to freeze wilder out....the only other fight they could viably make without backlash is fury if fury somehow fought a good opponent next and looked good

    the media will trash AJ if he doesnt fight wilder in april....you guys might think you fanbase will continue to support AJ and weak fights ...and they might...but there will be public backlash/pressure from the boxing media

    its not much of a different situation than canelo/ggg....same type of stuff...canelo the cashcow...younger guy not really in a rush and wanted to do it on his time....eventually the public pressure became too much...

    youd need fury to get better/look good in a hurry...and even after that youd have to fight wilder

    AJ wont be able to freeze wilder out without reprecussions
    But only American ******s would support Wilder asking for half the money. Everyone else would just laugh at you.

    If Wilder is serious, his demands of a rematch clause and half the money will stop. If it doesn't, he's not getting the fight.

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      #62
      Originally posted by 2fast2strong
      Yeah well I don’t know how anyone can support a so called Champion talking about “freezing” out his #1 rival.

      That’s unmanly in my book, this is prize fighting and I can understand waiting until you feel ready for the challenge or to hype the fight more but to say you will willfully not fight someone for no real reason other than I make more money than you is disgraceful.
      For no real reason? How about asking for a rematch clause and half the money? They are very real reasons why Wilder should be ignored.

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        #63
        Originally posted by TheBigLug
        The big paycheck won't be there anymore.

        The fact is that AJ's fanbase relies massively on the casual audience. About 95% of his fights attendees don't really follow boxing, hence why he can sell out stadiums v Takam, they don't care who the opponent is, it's just a popular event. once he loses, the fickle fanbase will disappear and it'll be back to fighting at the o2 Arena.

        That's why Hearn hasn't been keen on the Wilder fight. He'd rather sell out a few more stadiums v lesser opposition and milk AJ.

        They wouldn't even be fighting Povetkin if it wasn't mandatory, it'd be someone like Miller or a Whyte rematch.
        AJ was willing to test himself early in his career. The fights he's had after only having 21 fights is good. You couldn't ask for more. So i could definitely see him fighting Povetkin if he wasn't mandatory.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          AJ was willing to test himself early in his career. The fights he's had after only having 21 fights is good. You couldn't ask for more. So i could definitely see him fighting Povetkin if he wasn't mandatory.
          Maybe, but there's much more to lose now than he had back then.

          once most fighters get to this point, they try to maintain it without risk. Even Hearn said ideally he doesn't want this Povetkin fight, but it's a mandatory. AJ can make the same money fighting worse opponents.

          I'm sure AJ might be up for challenges, but the money men around him want to protect the cash cow they have built.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            AJ fanboys are so shook of wilder they are creating fake scenarios where chickenson loses to a 38 year old who got his ass kicked by a cruiser 6 years ago...

            this cant be real life...
            People ask these kinds of questions for big fights, it's the norm. What you're doing is just desperate and reaching. I mean, people asked "What if Ortiz beats Wilder?" Did that show how shook Wilder and fans were with Joshua? No it didn't.


            At least people can actually ask these kind of questions when Joshua fights. Unlike with Wilder and his merry-go-round of bums. Although, to be fair, Wilder does struggle a lot and does come close to being beat. Haha.

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              #66
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              why do so many new fans give a **** about purses and money?

              I want to see the guys fight in the ring for the title of the world, not fight on social media for the bigger percentage of the purse.
              We all want to see the fights. But if one of the fighters ask for ridiculous demands, the odds on the fight happening are quite slim. So everyone should be willing fighters to be fair at the negotiation table and not willing them on when they want extreme terms in their favour.

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                #67
                Originally posted by MDPopescu
                ... If Povetkin wins...

                ... well, Povetkin is likely to have three options:
                1) a huge money rematch at the Wembley, in April...
                2) a Ryabinsky-type fight in Moscow (vs Joshua or vs Wilder)...
                3) a unification fight vs Wilder, in Las Vegas (for that $50 million purse we are already aware of)...
                Wilder's side wouldn't offer that kind of money for a Povetkin fight. It's only due to AJ's pull where that can happen.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  yeah he would have loved it...what he wouldnt have loved is if it had no date on it and when he asked for clarification on the date the other guy said "next year"..lol
                  He didn't say next year though did he? he said it would be in Oct or Nov time.

                  Can you ever tell the truth or is it just les and bull**** from you?

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Wilder's side wouldn't offer that kind of money for a Povetkin fight. It's only due to AJ's pull where that can happen.
                    ... it was some sort of a joke...

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      what about months ago when hearn was offering dillian whyte? and wilder said "ok thats cool...promise me AJ is next after that and you have a deal"

                      and hearn said what now? he said "thats not how it works"

                      theres all the proof you need right there...wilder was willing to fight whyte and then AJ...and hearn wouldnt even let that happen or make that promise in writing

                      thats exhibit A...exhibit B is what just went down....no date or promise that it was NEXT!
                      They can't even get the AJ/Wilder fight on let alone 2 fights in the same contract.

                      You really are the most ****** poster on this forum. Without a shadow of a doubt.

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