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  • BigZ44
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    Because Warren is a bitter, old bastard with fish eyes that sees Hearn as the pompous rich kid that doesn't respect how the "old-timers" used to do it. I'm sure he's also worried that Hearn will make him irrelevant with all the success Matchroom has had. Throw on top of that the fact that Hearn IS a prick and has a big ego that he loves to stroke and rub that success in Warren's fish eyes. The best PPV that could be made in Britain isn't Khan/Brook or Joshua/Fury, it's Hearn/Warren. I'd fly to the UK to see those 2 fight in person.

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      #12
      Originally posted by yammy25
      I must admit.. taking the whole wilder / AJ thing out of the equation he has managed to proper piss off dibella..Finkel..and Espinoza.

      Espinoza is getting marked big time you can tell lol.

      Hearn does the smug **** routine like a pro
      Thing is, last I checked all he has (off the top of my head) is AJ and Jacobs. Once AJ loses his 0, Hearn is going to regret making enemies out of the American promoters. Is Derevyanchenko still managed by Haymon?

      As much as people seem to think all you need is the UK to be successful in boxing, that's not true. Eddie is a few powerful enemies away from being back to interviewing poker players on tuesday afternoons.

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        #13
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        Thing is, last I checked all he has (off the top of my head) is AJ and Jacobs. Once AJ loses his 0, Hearn is going to regret making enemies out of the American promoters. Is Derevyanchenko still managed by Haymon?

        As much as people seem to think all you need is the UK to be successful in boxing, that's not true. Eddie is a few powerful enemies away from being back to interviewing poker players on tuesday afternoons.
        I think you need to have a look at the PPV buys and other financial figures for fights from Hearn that don't include AJ for the last two / 3 years. It definitely isn't just AJ who makes money... It's just AJ who makes obscene money.

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          #14
          Originally posted by yammy25
          I think you need to have a look at the PPV buys and other financial figures for fights from Hearn that don't include AJ for the last two / 3 years. It definitely isn't just AJ who makes money... It's just AJ who makes obscene money.
          I wouldn’t know. But that’s the point I’m also trying to make. What fighters does Eddie have signed other than AJ and Daniel Jacobs that are known on this side of the ocean?

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            #15
            I think it's a mixture of commercial rivalry and genuine antipathy, especially from Warren's side.

            I'm sure a lot is pure pantomime aimed at putting bums on seats but I admit to finding Frank's bitterness very entertaining.

            Eddie Hearn is clearly enjoying the role he's playing and if I were competing against him and generally losing as Warren is, I'd find that smarmy demeanor difficult to take.

            As it is however they make one of the more amusing quasi double acts in boxing.

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            • The plunger man
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              Warren all through his career has had a bad rep with looking after his fighters....warren went back further than frank Maloney in terms of being a named promoter.
              Warren at one time controlled the middleweight division and had it all tied up on ITV with the benn,eubanks,collins and through to calzaghe era
              I don't know if you know this but warren became more famous after he got shot by a maked gunman (supposedly a former fighter of his TM).
              Warren was prety much a promoter of the WBO and mostly all his fighters competed for that belt and he put some horrendous shows with very weak challengers for his fighters....eubanks and calzaghe boxed some awful challengers.
              warren has that bitter side to him and he has watched hearn take all the spotlight now and promote all the biggest boxing events in the uk.
              Warren also tried f@ck mike tyson over and the result was him being hung over a 4th floor window by his throat.
              Warren is one nasty piece of work trust me and he resents hearn becoming the top dog
              Last edited by The plunger man; 06-29-2018, 04:49 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by BigZ44
                Because Warren is a bitter, old bastard with fish eyes that sees Hearn as the pompous rich kid that doesn't respect how the "old-timers" used to do it. I'm sure he's also worried that Hearn will make him irrelevant with all the success Matchroom has had. Throw on top of that the fact that Hearn IS a prick and has a big ego that he loves to stroke and rub that success in Warren's fish eyes. The best PPV that could be made in Britain isn't Khan/Brook or Joshua/Fury, it's Hearn/Warren. I'd fly to the UK to see those 2 fight in person.
                Fish eyes lol

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The plunger man
                  Warren all through his career has had a bad rep with looking after his fighters....warren went back further than frank Maloney in terms of being a named promoter.
                  Warren at one controlled the middleweight division and had it all tied up on ITV with the benn,eubanks,collins and through to calzaghe.
                  I don't if you know this but warren became more famous after he got shot by a maked gunman (supposedly a former fighter of his TM).
                  Warren was prety much a promoter of WBO and mostly all his fighters competed for that belt and he put some horrendous shows with very weak challengers for his fighters....eubanks and calzaghe boxed some awful challengers.
                  warren has that bitter side to him and he has watched hearn take all the spotlight now and promote all the biggest boxing events inthe uk.
                  Warren also tried f@ck mike tyson over and the result him being hung over a 4th floor window by his throat.
                  Warren is one nasty piece of work trust me.
                  Terry Marsh is a G. All those fighters Don King screwed over and none went all in as to try and take him out hitman style.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BigZ44
                    Because Warren is a bitter, old bastard with fish eyes that sees Hearn as the pompous rich kid that doesn't respect how the "old-timers" used to do it. I'm sure he's also worried that Hearn will make him irrelevant with all the success Matchroom has had. Throw on top of that the fact that Hearn IS a prick and has a big ego that he loves to stroke and rub that success in Warren's fish eyes. The best PPV that could be made in Britain isn't Khan/Brook or Joshua/Fury, it's Hearn/Warren. I'd fly to the UK to see those 2 fight in person.
                    Hearn is a pompous rich kid tho. I think their both a pair of wankers.


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                    • ukbox
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                      #20
                      From Warrens side he's seen what the dad did.
                      Barry was involved in the sport on a Brentwood club level all the way to big fights
                      Tony Simms is their relation & they had high hopes for him coming through. He had a name on the london circuit & then got cheeky in sparring & got ko & his jaw broke

                      They moved away from boxing when their fighters lost ground & went into other sports

                      Warren stuck with boxing...it's his bread & butter & hes paid his dues.
                      He had the contract with sky but hearn jnr was whispering in their ear. Warren got wind of it & set up boxnation
                      It came out eventually & warren moved to his own channel
                      Hearn was a boxing judas & would whisper in fighters ear promising them all sorts. Completely illegal he got away with it

                      He then started to sign Warren fighters. Kell Brook moved over to him as did Carl Froch
                      Both fighters had been invested in by warren and Hennessey. Hennessey had an old school working relationship with warren

                      It was Hearn being Hearn...talking out of both sides of his mouth, lying when his lips moved & trying to rip people off.

                      Contrary to what he wants you to believe. Its not open books with hearn. Its smoke & mirrors & bullshït

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