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  • Gentblue
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    #1

    Simple question to the brits out there...

    Why do Warren and Hearn hate each other???

    We know why Floyd hates bob, DelaHoya hates Floyd and so on.

    So why this??
    Sorry if this is an inane question but it’s been bothering me for a while.
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    If memory serves me correctly.. it's because Hearn being Hearn very early on said he was going to change the scene and put boxing back on the map.

    This was when Warren shared sky sports rights with other UK promoters like Maloney / Hatton / Hennessey etc etc .

    Warren said he wasn't worried at all.. and then the UK promoters sort of formed an alliance to get rid of Hearn or make life difficult when he managed to get some of the sky dates.

    Their product was stale..and fighters moved over to matchroom quite rapidly and so he just became quite bitter.

    Hearn used to jab at him quite a bit aswell...little snidey comments that I'm sure pissed Frank off royally.
    Fighters that had a problem with Warren personally or legally usually went to Hearns stable and eventually he got full sky exclusivity.

    I think aswell there's just some bitterness from Frank that he's been in the sport so long.. yet when you look at the two companies now, matchroom just dwarves queensberry in terms of market reach.. finance and in some people's opinions..value for money and cards.

    Matchroom certainly put on an awful lot.more content and boxing shows now.

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    • kafkod
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      #3
      Just a case of 2 big fish in a small pond, imo.

      Warren looked like becoming the dominant force in UK boxing after Mickey Duff retired and Frank Malony started having heart attacks when his fighters lost, then turned into a woman.

      Then Eddie Hearn took over Matchroom from his dad, linked up with Sky Sports, and the rivalry began from there.

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      • EnglishOxide
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        The thing is, they've never even met each other!

        Frank Warren is just a bitter old man. Jealous that a younger man has come along and stolen the majority of the market share in British boxing despite not even promoting for a decade.

        If he wasn't so stubborn he would be matching his fighters with Hearns to build his own brand on BT. Hearn has stated many times he would allow his fighters to fight on other networks and promotions.

        But Frank's style is very conservative especially with his prospects.

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          Originally posted by yammy25
          If memory serves me correctly.. it's because Hearn being Hearn very early on said he was going to change the scene and put boxing back on the map.

          This was when Warren shared sky sports rights with other UK promoters like Maloney / Hatton / Hennessey etc etc .

          Warren said he wasn't worried at all.. and then the UK promoters sort of formed an alliance to get rid of Hearn or make life difficult when he managed to get some of the sky dates.

          Their product was stale..and fighters moved over to matchroom quite rapidly and so he just became quite bitter.

          Hearn used to jab at him quite a bit aswell...little snidey comments that I'm sure pissed Frank off royally.
          Fighters that had a problem with Warren personally or legally usually went to Hearns stable and eventually he got full sky exclusivity.

          I think aswell there's just some bitterness from Frank that he's been in the sport so long.. yet when you look at the two companies now, matchroom just dwarves queensberry in terms of market reach.. finance and in some people's opinions..value for money and cards.

          Matchroom certainly put on an awful lot.more content and boxing shows now.
          The snidey comments from Hearn were definitely a factor.

          He's doing the same thing with US promoters now he's moved into the States, and it's having the same effect on them as it had on Warren.

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            #6
            Originally posted by kafkod
            The snidey comments from Hearn were definitely a factor.

            He's doing the same thing with US promoters now he's moved into the States, and it's having the same effect on them as it had on Warren.
            I must admit.. taking the whole wilder / AJ thing out of the equation he has managed to proper piss off dibella..Finkel..and Espinoza.

            Espinoza is getting marked big time you can tell lol.

            Hearn does the smug **** routine like a pro

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            • chaosisme
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              #7
              Some excellent answers in this thread. However, nobody has mentioned that Hearn is also very tall.

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                #8
                Originally posted by yammy25
                I must admit.. taking the whole wilder / AJ thing out of the equation he has managed to proper piss off dibella..Finkel..and Espinoza.

                Espinoza is getting marked big time you can tell lol.

                Hearn does the smug **** routine like a pro

                By the sounds of it DiBella takes things in good faith and he and Hearn have a good business relationship right now.

                Eddie knows he can get away with rubbing people up the wrong way, because money talks, and he generates it as well as anybody. It doesn't matter who he pisses off, his door is always open to do business.

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                • kafkod
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by yammy25
                  I must admit.. taking the whole wilder / AJ thing out of the equation he has managed to proper piss off dibella..Finkel..and Espinoza.

                  Espinoza is getting marked big time you can tell lol.

                  Hearn does the smug **** routine like a pro
                  He enjoys winding people up, but I think he does it in a calculated way too, like a boxer trashing his opponent to sell a fight. Grudges and rivalries get people's attention, and that translates into money.

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                  • juggernaut666
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                    Eddie Hearns dad pulled Warrens pants down (Panst him ) who wasnt wearing under wear at the senior College Bedford dance and humiliated him as he fell over the punch bowl.

                    Warren retaliated that night by cutting the young up starts car breaks where he lost control and hit Warrens Grand Mother on Hickory Twitchery lane ,where Barry broke his neck as he jumped out and Warrens Grand Mother stuck on the hood as the car went over the cliff bursting in flames .


                    Its been bad blood since and Warren is hell bent on revenge bc he blames it all on Barry who always one up on him so now he seeks revenge on Eddie .




                    Im not a Brit so this story MAY not be true !
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-28-2018, 08:32 PM.

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