Is this the diehard Hearn fanbase?

[LacedUp]

With key points in the contract omitted..aka blank you Hearniac

Like what key point exactly?

Because according to Finkel he had some comments

1) to ensure it was AJs next fight - YES

2) date of the fight (october/november) they needed final date because of venue.

But the offer is still valid, so they can still sign. Hearn offered them to sign and bring the contract - he'd sign it live on tv.

[Madison Boxing]

i know its the cool thing to criticise hearn but im not gonna criticise a guy who has turned UK boxing into possibly the hottest market in world boxing where nearly every other country has gone the other way. he threw joshua in with klitschko when he didnt have to and nearly paid the price. hes got no track record of protecting joshua, the guy really hasnt even had that many fights in the scheme of things

[ukbox]

Like what key point exactly?

Because according to Finkel he had some comments

1) to ensure it was AJs next fight - YES

2) date of the fight (october/november) they needed final date because of venue.

But the offer is still valid, so they can still sign. Hearn offered them to sign and bring the contract - he'd sign it live on tv.

Because the actual contract sent made no mention of the proposed dates nor venue nor that it was aj's next fight.

Of course Hearn was ready to sign his own contract 😂

The contract sent didn't match up with what had been agreed. Was it an oversight? Unlikely given the money involved.

It was su****ious as it opened the door to Hearn manouvering another fight in before Wilder.

They needed clarification on that & why it was missing from the contract in the first place

They had agreed to the dates you've quoted. Hearn removed those dates from the contract.

If Wilder had signed for a fight on the belief that it would take place in oct/nov, without any mention of this in the contract(it wasnt), then legally Hearn would have been entitled to put povetkin on first.

Which is exactly what he has done & the offer to sign for a flat fee is for a fight that's 10 months away

Yet AJ & Hearn want the fight as a matter of urgency.
They know their fans are demanding it. Not on here obviously 🙄😂

[kafkod]

If Wilder didn't want the fight next, why did he agree to a low ball flat fee to go to the UK? That's about as desperate as it gets.

And even still, the contract didn't list a date, so they sought clarification that if they signed, the fight would be next and not at a later date after Povetkin.

Meanwhile, Hearn continued to be evasive to stall. Hard to blame this one on Wilder and Finkel. The WBA stuff is a smokescreen. Unification trumps mandatory. You just pay a small fee for an exception. There's no doubt Wilder's side wanted the fight next. They made every concession possible. It still wasn't enough.

A lowball offer that was nearly 10 times more than Wilder has ever earned for a fight before?

And what does "accepting an offer" mean .. if you don't sign the contract for it?

Nothing!

[kafkod]

You've been caught many times lying about what other people said. So please link us to Wilder's statement.

Wilder wasn't going to sign without knowing the date because he feared they would still do the Povetkin fight first even if he signed.

Google it fanboy.

Yeah more excuses. Everything is Hearn's fault, nothing is Wilder's.

You're boring.

Yes, it is all Hearn's fault, because he's a promoter, which means he's a liar. But Finkel's not a promoter - he's a manager, and managers don't lie, ever.

So if a promoter says one thing, and a manager says something else, don't waste your time thinking about it, or weighing up the evidence - the promoter is lying and the manager is telling the truth - that's all you need to know.

[Afi23]

Obviously, I don't know what happened behind closed doors with the negotiations. That being said, I'm baffled by the fact that a boxer was staring at a chance to become the Undisputed/Unified Heavyweight Champion of the World for a cool 50 million (+ PPV upside) courtesy of the B-side's camp and didn't grab that opportunity. Like I said, I'm not privy to the negotiations so AJ's camp might have good reasons to not grab that opportunity.

[N/A]

if a promoter says one thing, and a manager says something else, don't waste your time thinking about it, or weighing up the evidence - the promoter is lying and the manager is telling the truth - that's all you need to know.

Definitely weigh the evidence. The evidence suggests Hearn is lying because throughout this process, he's been caught in several lies. Finkel hasn't been caught in any lies. Finkel has shown emails to the press that back up his account of things. Hearn's version of events doesn't make any sense. Hearn benefits the most from the fight being delayed. Nothing is stopping Hearn from making the fight right now and he's already talking about April, which is what he truly wanted all along.

[N/A]

A lowball offer that was nearly 10 times more than Wilder has ever earned for a fight before?

You don't know what Wilder actually earns, so you're really just repeating things you've heard Hearn say without having any idea if they're true.

We've only had one chance to know what Wilder's actual earning power is. The Povetkin purse bid. Which showed Wilder's value at over $5 million. Otherwise, you only have in house fights with fake numbers to go by.

[jas]

Its ifltv/sky/hearn/aj fanboys

They dont know anything about boxing, jus bizziness and even then they simply love to lap up the BS to cherish the fanboy role

[Scopedog]

i know its the cool thing to criticise hearn but im not gonna criticise a guy who has turned UK boxing into possibly the hottest market in world boxing where nearly every other country has gone the other way. he threw joshua in with klitschko when he didnt have to and nearly paid the price. hes got no track record of protecting joshua, the guy really hasnt even had that many fights in the scheme of things

Lousy attitude to take. Just because someone did something good that doesn't mean you have to clam up when he does something bad. There's been a definite shift in Eddie's attitudes, especially in the last six months or so. He's getting too big for his britches and is starting to take advantage of the fans and throw his weight around in boxing's power structure in a way that's damaging the sport. He didn't used to get booed whenever he appeared at events, he does now.