Prime Pacquiao vs Crawford or Spence. Who wins?

[The Big Dunn]

thread titled "prime pacquiao vs crawford or spence. who wins". where in that statement did you see floyd's name mention at all??

so you went out of your way to bring floyd up to make your point, yet you get mad when the other poster quoted you saying something negative about floyd, in which you brought up?

I know English is like your 5th language so I’ll try to explain slowly.

I mentioned fighters with similar attributes and similar size advantages to explain why I answered the way I did. Why would any rational adult have an issue with that?

I didn’t “go out of my way to mention Floyd”. Why haven’t you complained about clottey and margs being mentioned? Because he beat them.

Yet you have an issue with Floyd and in another post are upset about Raheem being mentioned because he lost to one and ducked the other.

[Willy Wanker]

Prime Pac beats both. Ask me this question three years from now, I may or may not have a different opinion. Crawford and Spence haven't fought at the highest level yet, like Pac has done for years.

Pac would definitely fight smart against someone like Spence and he would respect his power and size. Pac usually fought smarter and never got too reckless against bigger opponents with power. He would never get careless against someone like Spence like he did against someone like Marquez.

Crawford is bigger than Pac too, but not quite the killer Spence is. He has decent power, but not the kind of power that could end Manny with one shot like Spence can. I could see Pac taking more risks against Crawford. I can also see Crawford frustrating Manny at times with his boxing skills and movement, but Pac would outwork him for a UD win.

[The Big Dunn]

Manny had just moved up to 130 and wanted his revenge match with Morales. He didn't move up to 135 for a few more years. Raheem had actually lost right after his win against Morales. If Freitas can beat Raheem, I do not think that Manny would have had a problem. Comparing Raheem to Manny, what a joke!


No. The way most of us saw it was that Floyd was buying time. He fought Manny only after he admitted that Manny was no longer the same fighter!

Then at the end of the day, it was Floyd Mayweather who was using illegal BANNED IVs!!!! Floyd had to get his friend USADA to bail him out!!! So what was the point of the delay again?



I saw your other posts. You bring up points, well expect others to critic your points. Unless your statements are sound, don't think that you can just sneak in your idols name and not expect a comeback!.

WTF is this? You didn’t answer the TS question. Where did I compare manny to Raheem? Bob and the tr matchmaker thought he’d have a problem so they didn’t make the fight.

I have no issue if you bring up points about the TS question. The post I responded to didn’t. Hence, my issue.

You and the other pac diehards that responded to me in this thread about my point about Floyd did so because you guys are still upset he lost. Notice the poster abarcadba responded by posting he thinks pac destroys both. I respond I disagree, it ends without issue. The question is why did my response hurt the feelings of the ****** pac slurpers ?

We all know why. In fact you, djtmal, kuykut and dbvincent didn't answer the TS question but talked about me. Western decided to chime in about me. What do you all have in common besides small ****s, lack of boxing knowledge, and sore throats and ********s? A love of Manny.

That is the only reason you would have an issue my post. Frankly its pathetic and ridiculous.

How else can the question be answered without examples?

that guy is desperate. i've seen him mention raheem before just because pac didnt fight him. so he's using it as a way of manny ducking him. the guy fought literally nobody yet manny is ducking him? lol.

He fought nobody? Uh he beat Morales before Manny did. LMFAO this just illustrates how really ****** you are.

Raheem is a boxer puncher that is bigger than manny and has a longer reach and moves very well. He is the exact type of boxer manny was kept away from by top rank. Crawford has similar attributes but with power.

But don’t worry- bob would likely cheat and drain Crawford like he did cotto and make him fight at 145 to give manny better chance to win.

[dibzvincent143]

I also mentioned Raheem, margs and clottey yet none of you pac slurpers are upset. To answer why I picked Spence and Crawford to win, I brought up the attributes of a man manny didn’t fight and a man manny lost to because they have similar attributes.

I also brought up other bigger men that manny beat and pointed out how they were different from them and why manny wouldn’t beat them.

The post I responded to didn’t answer the TS question. It was about Floyd and Thurman fighting. Hey, how come you and westernslurp didn’t get on him for bringing up Thurman since he wasn’t asked by the TS?

I know English is tough for a lot of you guys but when you answer a question it’s usually a good thing to explain the answer so people understand why you gave that answer.

Like this post here-you haven’t answered the TS question, just came in to talk about me because I mentioned manny losing to Floyd as part of my answer. How about you answer the thread question first, then whine like a butthurt biyatch.

For the record, I have no problem with anyone bringing up Floyd anywhere in this Forum —as ofcourse this is a boxing forum— as long as they make sense, as long as it is quite related and they have points worth bringing up and discussing.

I have no problem with you bringing up Floyd in this thread — I myself did in the first page if you’ll review it.

The real problem here is your hypocrisy. Acting like a thread police when you saw someone mentioned Floyd when you yourself did the same. And you did it first.

You could’ve called him up for not answering the TS question, but well you had other thoughts in mind— which again proves your hypocrisy and the fact that your blinded with that simple explanation of what just happened in this thread is beyond me.

[dibzvincent143]

I also mentioned Raheem, margs and clottey yet none of you pac slurpers are upset. To answer why I picked Spence and Crawford to win, I brought up the attributes of a man manny didn’t fight and a man manny lost to because they have similar attributes.

I also brought up other bigger men that manny beat and pointed out how they were different from them and why manny wouldn’t beat them.

The post I responded to didn’t answer the TS question. It was about Floyd and Thurman fighting. Hey, how come you and westernslurp didn’t get on him for bringing up Thurman since he wasn’t asked by the TS?

I know English is tough for a lot of you guys but when you answer a question it’s usually a good thing to explain the answer so people understand why you gave that answer.

Like this post here-you haven’t answered the TS question, just came in to talk about me because I mentioned manny losing to Floyd as part of my answer. How about you answer the thread question first, then whine like a butthurt biyatch.

And dude he just replied your comment where Floyd has been mentioned. So yep that was totally okayyy, unless you hate his comment about Floyd so much.

He wasn’t replying to TS he was replying to you, and the point you were trying to make.

And your like “don’t mention Floyd!” Lmao

Again take this L.

[The Big Dunn]

For the record, I have no problem with anyone bringing up Floyd anywhere in this Forum —as ofcourse this is a boxing forum— as long as they make sense, as long as it is quite related and they have points worth bringing up and discussing.

I have no problem with you bringing up Floyd in this thread — I myself did in the first page if you’ll review it.

The real problem here is your hypocrisy. Acting like a thread police when you saw someone mentioned Floyd when you yourself did the same. And you did it first.

You could’ve called him up for not answering the TS question, but well you had other thoughts in mind— which again proves your hypocrisy and the fact that your blinded with that simple explanation of what just happened in this thread is beyond me.

Dude just stop. I didn’t veer off topic and bring up Floyd fighting Thurman and not answer the thread topic. I mentioned Floyd, as well as 3 other fighters, in the context of the TS question. Why? Because it’s relevant to discuss styles manny lost to when answering if he’d lose to these men.

To act like mentioning other fighters justifies that response is pathetic.

Thread police. Hahaha.

[The Big Dunn]

And dude he just replied your comment where Floyd has been mentioned. So yep that was totally okayyy, unless you hate his comment about Floyd so much.

He wasn’t replying to TS he was replying to you, and the point you were trying to make.

And your like “don’t mention Floyd!” Lmao

Again take this L.

What L am I taking? Lmfao. Respond to the thread topic like I did, not a poster in it. He didn’t respond to any point I made, he went off topic and pointed out what Floyd would do against Thurman.

Can you read?

[WesternChamp]

WTF is this? You didn’t answer the TS question. Where did I compare manny to Raheem? Bob and the tr matchmaker thought he’d have a problem so they didn’t make the fight.

I have no issue if you bring up points about the TS question. The post I responded to didn’t. Hence, my issue.

You and the other pac diehards that responded to me in this thread about my point about Floyd did so because you guys are still upset he lost. Notice the poster abarcadba responded by posting he thinks pac destroys both. I respond I disagree, it ends without issue. The question is why did my response hurt the feelings of the ****** pac slurpers ?

We all know why. In fact you, djtmal, kuykut and dbvincent didn't answer the TS question but talked about me. Western decided to chime in about me. What do you all have in common besides small ****s, lack of boxing knowledge, and sore throats and ********s? A love of Manny.

That is the only reason you would have an issue my post. Frankly its pathetic and ridiculous.

How else can the question be answered without examples?



He fought nobody? Uh he beat Morales before Manny did. LMFAO this just illustrates how really ****** you are.

Raheem is a boxer puncher that is bigger than manny and has a longer reach and moves very well. He is the exact type of boxer manny was kept away from by top rank. Crawford has similar attributes but with power.

But don’t worry- bob would likely cheat and drain Crawford like he did cotto and make him fight at 145 to give manny better chance to win.

so he beat morales, who else? !!!!

[WesternChamp]

I know English is like your 5th language so I’ll try to explain slowly.

I mentioned fighters with similar attributes and similar size advantages to explain why I answered the way I did. Why would any rational adult have an issue with that?

I didn’t “go out of my way to mention Floyd”. Why haven’t you complained about clottey and margs being mentioned? Because he beat them.

Yet you have an issue with Floyd and in another post are upset about Raheem being mentioned because he lost to one and ducked the other.

stop trying to weasel your way out. you brought up floyd first to prove your point then cry when the other posters quoted you with something negative about floyd.

you did go out of your way, because floyd was never mention from the TS in the first place! you been chilling with larry again?

[WesternChamp]

Wrong. As soon as Danny or Porter agree to fight him, which is what he's been asking for, he'll be automatically enrolled into the WBC CBP. He's basically been asking for it!

You're right about one thing...with a lack of concrete evidence, all we can do is have an opinion. I'm sorry, but if Errol Spence turned down a $100 million fight, with the excuse of being afraid of needles, my opinion of him might be different than yours of pac. But I'm also able to put aside my personal rooting interest for a fighter, and see things for what they are. A lot of other people on NSB are not, and its a shame.

well, that hasnt happen yet did it? so how can you say he's clean if he hasnt under go random testing? lol. yet you accused manny of being dirty because he asked for a cut off date.

if and when spence finally enroll in random testing then you can come back and bump this post.