Prime Pacquiao vs Crawford or Spence. Who wins?

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  • WesternChamp
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    #61
    Originally posted by Phenom
    love how Pacquiao prime is between 09-11 conveniently between Marquez 2 and 3
    well then tell us which year is his prime then? 08? 11? 12?

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    • ADP02
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      #62
      Originally posted by WesternChamp
      when manny gets caught with a dirty test, get back to me.
      Nice comeback!

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      • FLY TY
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        #63
        Originally posted by WesternChamp
        when manny gets caught with a dirty test, get back to me.
        Point taken...

        He did turn down a 50/50 split over needles. When Spence does the same, I'll shut up.

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          #64
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Common sense here guys. Manny is a 1st ballot HOF'er. He has wins over HOF boxers. but there is a reason he never fought Raheem and avoided Floyd for so long-they are both bigger, more athletic boxers that can move.

          Manny always had problems with movement and guys that could box. These mythical fights aren't against plodders like Clottey or Margs just standing in front of Manny.

          Spence is just too big and skilled. He would knock prime Manny out brutally. Crawford is too long and would outbox Manny. He might get a late stoppage.

          Just too much size and skill for Manny to overcome.

          Manny had just moved up to 130 and wanted his revenge match with Morales. He didn't move up to 135 for a few more years. Raheem had actually lost right after his win against Morales. If Freitas can beat Raheem, I do not think that Manny would have had a problem. Comparing Raheem to Manny, what a joke!


          No. The way most of us saw it was that Floyd was buying time. He fought Manny only after he admitted that Manny was no longer the same fighter!

          Then at the end of the day, it was Floyd Mayweather who was using illegal BANNED IVs!!!! Floyd had to get his friend USADA to bail him out!!! So what was the point of the delay again?



          I saw your other posts. You bring up points, well expect others to critic your points. Unless your statements are sound, don't think that you can just sneak in your idols name and not expect a comeback!



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          • WesternChamp
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            #65
            Originally posted by FLY TY
            Point taken...

            He did turn down a 50/50 split over needles. When Spence does the same, I'll shut up.
            that's your opinion. that's like me saying floyd is dirty! it means jack shiiet! since i have no proof just like you have no proof. and from the opponents spence has been fighting, i dont think he'll under go random testing anytime soon.

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            • WesternChamp
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              #66
              Originally posted by ADP02
              Manny had just moved up to 130 and wanted his revenge match with Morales. He didn't move up to 135 for a few more years. Raheem had actually lost right after his win against Morales. If Freitas can beat Raheem, I do not think that Manny would have had a problem. Comparing Raheem to Manny, what a joke!


              No. The way most of us saw it was that Floyd was buying time. He fought Manny only after he admitted that Manny was no longer the same fighter!

              Then at the end of the day, it was Floyd Mayweather who was using illegal BANNED IVs!!!! Floyd had to get his friend USADA to bail him out!!! So what was the point of the delay again?



              I saw your other posts. You bring up points, well expect others to critic your points. Unless your statements are sound, don't think that you can just sneak in your idols name and not expect a comeback!



              .

              that guy is desperate. i've seen him mention raheem before just because pac didnt fight him. so he's using it as a way of manny ducking him. the guy fought literally nobody yet manny is ducking him? lol.

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              • FLY TY
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                #67
                Originally posted by WesternChamp
                that's your opinion. that's like me saying floyd is dirty! it means jack shiiet! since i have no proof just like you have no proof. and from the opponents spence has been fighting, i dont think he'll under go random testing anytime soon.
                Wrong. As soon as Danny or Porter agree to fight him, which is what he's been asking for, he'll be automatically enrolled into the WBC CBP. He's basically been asking for it!

                You're right about one thing...with a lack of concrete evidence, all we can do is have an opinion. I'm sorry, but if Errol Spence turned down a $100 million fight, with the excuse of being afraid of needles, my opinion of him might be different than yours of pac. But I'm also able to put aside my personal rooting interest for a fighter, and see things for what they are. A lot of other people on NSB are not, and its a shame.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by WesternChamp
                  that guy is desperate. i've seen him mention raheem before just because pac didnt fight him. so he's using it as a way of manny ducking him. the guy fought literally nobody yet manny is ducking him? lol.
                  Raheem fought "literally nobody" even though he'd just embarrassed Erik Morales who'd just beat Pacquaio.

                  Then Pacquaio fights Morales straight after (instead of Raheem) and alot people try and consider that a great win

                  So Pacquaio's win over Morales must be meaningless then?

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                  • man down
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                    #69
                    That's what's so hard. We had may, pac, cotto, Marquez, Bradley, Gotti, Ward, now this gen is lacking. Sure we have good boxers but no where near last gen so far.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                      You just took a very big L Big Dunn.

                      So it’s okay to bring up Floyd in a topic where he’s not even mentioned, as long as you brought up others with him?? that’s according to your logic right???

                      You brought Floyd up first.
                      And yet you are calling another poser for doing the same.

                      You even had the nerve to say “b-b-but I answered the TS’ question” and he didn’t!
                      So me bringing up floyd was just okay loooooool
                      I also mentioned Raheem, margs and clottey yet none of you pac slurpers are upset. To answer why I picked Spence and Crawford to win, I brought up the attributes of a man manny didn’t fight and a man manny lost to because they have similar attributes.

                      I also brought up other bigger men that manny beat and pointed out how they were different from them and why manny wouldn’t beat them.

                      The post I responded to didn’t answer the TS question. It was about Floyd and Thurman fighting. Hey, how come you and westernslurp didn’t get on him for bringing up Thurman since he wasn’t asked by the TS?

                      I know English is tough for a lot of you guys but when you answer a question it’s usually a good thing to explain the answer so people understand why you gave that answer.

                      Like this post here-you haven’t answered the TS question, just came in to talk about me because I mentioned manny losing to Floyd as part of my answer. How about you answer the thread question first, then whine like a butthurt biyatch.
                      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-26-2018, 04:48 AM.

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