Why is the WBC wrong for enforcing a mandatory on GGG?

[BO$$NELO]

GGG can only fight one guy at a time and the IBF ordered a mandatory

IBF and WBC need to work this out

End thread.

...typical TripleCUCKs defend their glazed cock no matter what.

Perhaps this trash shouldn't have fought a homeless person on a 2 week camp after 2 year layoff and a career in JMW coming off a loss.

"End thread."

[Thraxox]

Lol at anyone thinking ggg is ducking charlo

Very good fight though

Will see how good gggs chin is. We already know its iron
Will find out if is legendary

It is Charlo's chin's turn that needs to be tested.

[Citizen Koba]

Not a problem. Happy to help.




Yes, the WBC feels it is their turn and they do not want to get skipped. GGG taking that Vanes fight really screwed things up with the IBF. For a three belt world champion, especially if those three belts are WBC/WBA/IBF (those three orgs work better together than they do with the WBO), typically the orgs will let you rotate every fight between voluntary and mandatory, so out of every six fights, you've fought three voluntaries, one WBC mandatory, one WBA mandatory and one IBF mandatory.

By fighting Vanes, that was two voluntaries in a row, so the whole system is messed up now.

Hmmm. And the Vanes fight was unsanctioned by the IBF of course, just to add to the confusion - therefore presumably not even counting as a voluntary defense from their perspective. I'm wondering why the IBF leapt in to start trying to enforce their mandatory when the WBC had not yet had their turn in that case. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you're the member of the troika with connections to the WBC - have you had any input from Mr IBF? - I'd be interested in hearing their take on the matter.

Essentially anyone that Golovkin had fought on May 5th would have messed up the rotation (except Charlo, though I gather the WBC requested he not throw his name in the mix... ), though I'm quite sure that had the Derevyanchenko fight come together it would have provided the easiest solution from the point of view of the sanctioning orgs at least - if not Golovkin himself.

Is there any kind of precedent for this situation do we know? Having a mandatory challenger who is withdraws /suspended / out of action from some reason? Is the normal procedure to wait until they're available to fight, effectively putting the champion on hold? To move on to the next highest ranked fighter immediately? To move on to the next org in rotation? And the situation is complicated by the fact that despite the fact that it's a mandatory all the balls - financially speaking - are in the challengers camp. In effect neither fighter faces sanction for failing to fight the other, which rather makes a mockery of the term 'mandatory'...

Man. Canelo peeing dirty really messed up GGGs life, didn't it? One would hope the IBF and WBC are in negotiations to resolve this issue. It seems to me now that the IBF probably acted precipitously in ordering GGG to fight his mando, but without further information on the specifics of the rotation agreement it's hard to be sure. What is clear is that the WBC should have acted immediately to clarify their stance on the mandatory situation when Canelo withdrew from the May 5th fight.

[jas]

It is Charlo's chin's turn that needs to be tested.

Ggg has type of power no one can take

Charlo bros seem to have good chins though so wont do a dominic wade

[N/A]

out of curiosity, why were the bodies okay with the Canelo rematch? Are there special rematch exemptions in the voluntary/mandatory system?

Wade was IBF mandatory, then voluntary (Brook).

Jacobs was WBA mandatory, then voluntary (Canelo).

Then it's time for WBC mandatory, and since Canelo was a draw, the WBC ordered a mandatory rematch. The IBF & WBA don't have any room to object because it was the WBC's turn anyway.

By taking another voluntary (Vanes), the IBF is saying that GGG chose to skip his WBC mandatory. The WBC is saying it's still their turn. I have no idea how it will be worked out.

[N/A]

Essentially anyone that Golovkin had fought on May 5th would have messed up the rotation

correct. best chance to keep all belts was to skip fighting may 5.

[_Rexy_]

Wade was IBF mandatory, then voluntary (Brook).

Jacobs was WBA mandatory, then voluntary (Canelo).

Then it's time for WBC mandatory, and since Canelo was a draw, the WBC ordered a mandatory rematch. The IBF & WBA don't have any room to object because it was the WBC's turn anyway.

By taking another voluntary (Vanes), the IBF is saying that GGG chose to skip his WBC mandatory. The WBC is saying it's still their turn. I have no idea how it will be worked out.

Thanks for the info, why was the WBC quiet about the vanes match until after the fact though?

[LetOutTheCage]

There seemed to be no problem when they did it with Canelo for GGG..All the other mando's GGG had to fight were fine with his fans..So why is Charlo an issue?

Who said it was an issue? I'd happily watch that fight.

[N/A]

Thanks for the info, why was the WBC quiet about the vanes match until after the fact though?

They weren't opposed to the Vanes fight. Got them a sanctioning fee on short notice instead of there being no fight at all and therefore no fee.

When you say they were quiet, what exactly was the WBC supposed to say?

[Nay_Sayer]

Ggg has type of power no one can take

Jacobs and Alvarez had no problems going the distance...