Comments Thread For: Six Fighters Agree To Join Eddie Hearn In DAZN Deal

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For one talk about the Charlo's every chance they got on all forms of media. Hearn does more media than any four promoters. Dude loves the sound of his own voice in a way that would make Don King blush. If your name is on a promoters tongue there is gonna be a benefit in that.

They also are put into bouts that move their narrative forward in places that they have or can garner fans. PBC pulls an opponent out of their ass for non-main event guys 2-3 weeks before the fight 80% of the time probably. And they've gotten better with throwing people in relevant venues, but they still miss their shot with that often enough

So I guess your first point is, instead of the Charlo’s themselves talking (which is what they do and like to do), they need a promoter talking on their behalf.

Your second point, as it relates to the Charlo’s, is really broad. What would a real promoter do? Specifically?

I just want to make sure I have what you’re saying accurate. If not, explain.

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Oscar De La Hoya didn’t have GBP until he was a multi-division champ. Mayweather Promotions took how long?

And those weren't REAL promotions til both retired iirc. A active boxer running a legit promotion is a fantasy more than a reality. Its a tax thing more than anything real.

But that’s not the point. The point is, this is what they’re doing now whether they should have done it before or whenever.

My point is its a limp **** idea they shoulda done 3 years ago for the business angle it'll be used for if we are talking about the Lions Only Promotions idea. And idk wtf they are planning to do thats game changing on their own beyond that, but I'd bet against that too although I'm still curious to hear about it.

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And those weren't REAL promotions til both retired iirc. A active boxer running a legit promotion is a fantasy more than a reality. Its a tax thing more than anything real.



My point is its a limp **** idea they shoulda done 3 years ago for the business angle it'll be used for if we are talking about the Lions Only Promotions idea. And idk wtf they are planning to do thats game changing on their own beyond that, but I'd bet against that too although I'm still curious to hear about it.

Ok but they’re doing it now, whether we like it or not. Who knows, maybe they’re looking at what went wrong with past ones and are creating their own model.

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So I guess your first point is, instead of the Charlo’s themselves talking (which is what they do and like to do), they need a promoter talking on their behalf.

No. The Charlo's should keep talking. But a promoter talking about them isn't gonna hurt. Right now the Charlo's are the only ones talking about the Charlo's. Thats ******ed. PBC doesn't even give these guys their full respect as I see it. Guys are 2nd billing to lil dudes ffs.

Your second point, as it relates to the Charlo’s, is really broad. What would a real promoter do? Specifically?

I don't think opponent selection is a broad concept. Its one of the things the best promoters do well with by getting guys opponents who push their story forward vs meaningful guys in the most meaningful fights. Arum is a lil too cautious with his guys, but he does this well. Hearn might be the best at it cuz he puts his guys at risk & his up & coming guys lose all the time cuz he tries to make as evenly matched fights as possible. That makes you bigger when people give a damn who you are fighting.

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No. The Charlo's should keep talking. But a promoter talking about them isn't gonna hurt. Right now the Charlo's are the only ones talking about the Charlo's. Thats ******ed. PBC doesn't even give these guys their full respect as I see it. Guys are 2nd billing to lil dudes ffs.



I don't think opponent selection is a broad concept. Its one of the things the best promoters do well with by getting guys opponents who push their story forward vs meaningful guys in the most meaningful fights. Arum is a lil too cautious with his guys, but he does this well. Hearn might be the best at it cuz he puts his guys at risk & his up & coming guys lose all the time cuz he tries to make as evenly matched fights as possible. That makes you bigger when people give a damn who you are fighting.

So a real promoter does what the publicist is supposed to. Sounds like your issue is misdirected.

How should the Charlo’s have been moved? Opponent wise. Keeping in mind that other fighters have to acquiesce.

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Ok but they’re doing it now, whether we like it or not. Who knows, maybe they’re looking at what went wrong with past ones and are creating their own model.

Well its always better to be 2yrs behind than 3yrs behind I'll give you & the Charlo's that.

But its better to have a promoter still than not. If PBC promoters acted like legit promoters this wouldn't even be a thing, but they barely act like real promoters thus all PBC fighters are more or less promoter-less.

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Well its always better to be 2yrs behind than 3yrs behind I'll give you & the Charlo's that.

But its better to have a promoter still than not. If PBC promoters acted like legit promoters this wouldn't even be a thing, but they barely act like real promoters thus all PBC fighters are more or less promoter-less.

Well I’m still trying to figure out what a real promoter does that they don’t. Aside from talk more, which publicists do. Maybe, just maybe, fighters are asking themselves the same question.

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So a real promoter does what the publicist is supposed to. Sounds like your issue is misdirected.

A real promoter does a lot of things outside of promotion.

How should the Charlo’s have been moved? Opponent wise. Keeping in mind that other fighters have to acquiesce.

Mostly more often. A real promoter is gonna have skin in the game to keep you active. That alone with more meaningful opponent selection would have insured the Charlos & other PBC fighters are in better position today. Sh^t we mighta already seen Charlo vs GGG or Canelo already in another universe.

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Well I’m still trying to figure out what a real promoter does that they don’t. Aside from talk more, which publicists do. Maybe, just maybe, fighters are asking themselves the same question.

If you don't see the difference in how PBC "Promoters" do things & how real promoters do things idk what to say beyond that. Seems like everyone else sees it. Maybe I'm explaining it badly or maybe you just don't wanna see it cuz your whole angle seems to be this DAZN thing is a sh^tty idea & will fail more than searching for issues with the status quo currently with many of these PBC guys I've been watching being moved poorly for 3 years now despite being among the best up & coming guys in the game.

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A real promoter does a lot of things outside of promotion.



Mostly more often. A real promoter is gonna have skin in the game to keep you active. That alone with more meaningful opponent selection would have insured the Charlos & other PBC fighters are in better position today. Sh^t we mighta already seen Charlo vs GGG or Canelo already in another universe.

Very hard to nail down the specifics of what a real promoter does, as opposed to a fake one.