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  • #51
    I’d take less money to have a historic even at home with near 100k people. He’s 28 years old and already has a s hit ton of money and will make a sh it ton of money regardless. What’s 50 when you can make 40 and plan on winning and making more after? Take a little less and be part of a huge event and exercise your A-side status?

    I wonder what he’ll do... Hell, I doubt wilder makes more money fighting him in the states anyhow.

    This SHOULD be a no brainer...but it somehow isn’t? I don’t get it.

    In fact, Wilder even trying to get AJ to the states is kind of insane and delusional. It’s better than 50% by GGG though... at least Wilder is putting some money down and trying to buy it from him.

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    • #52
      $50M for a slow motion fight, come on! 90k British diehards are OK. Show them the money Uncle Sam. 😂

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Holler View Post
        We don't know what those clauses were, but I can certainly think of some that would make any offer impossible to accept as I'm sure you could also.
        Doesn't matter what the clauses were because Hearn has already admitted they flat out don't want to fight in America, that it has to be in the UK, even though the UK would generate less money. So when Hearn himself has already confirmed the terms were irrelevant, you can't blame the terms.


        The key point is for a deal to work it has to work for both parties and it seems Wilder's offer in its entirety didn't work for Joshua.
        That's fine. So Joshua was lying when he said give me 50 million. Because Wilder received a flat 12.5 offer that would have given Hearn promotional control and Wilder said no, the money is too low. AJ said, give me a flat 50 million and I'll sign tomorrow. Wilder said no problem, here's 50 million, we'll fight wherever the fight generates the most money, we'll fight next, we'll fight before the year is over, you don't even have to give me a rematch clause, here's your 50 million, let's do it.

        And AJ said, no, I won't keep my word, I've had a change of heart, I'd rather fight for less than 50 million and fight in the UK. Which is fine. Just be honest about what happened. Wilder called AJ's bluff.


        Can you explain how giving Wilder what Finkel said he wanted for a fight in the UK equates to Joshua keeping his word on an entirely different offer? Because I can't see any relation between the two?
        Because the point is that if AJ calls Wilder's bluff, Wilder will keep his word and take the fight. When Wilder called AJ's bluff, AJ refused to keep his word and refused to take the fight.

        50 million was an outrageous demand, but the demand was met and then AJ refused to be a man of his word.

        But even if you think 60/40 is an outrageous demand, the point is that Wilder will keep his word if that demand is met. He will go fight in the UK for 60/40. Even though AJ lied about fighting for 50 million.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by hitking View Post
          I still can’t figure out why AJ doesn’t wanna fight Wilder in front of 12K in Vegas for $50M+. But he’s cool with fighting Big Baby in front of 12K in NYC for probably about 5x less.
          Sounds and smells like a DUCK...

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Holler View Post
            Has Hearn said anything about a revised offer being made to Wilder? If it's still a flat fee then there's no chance of a fight being made in my view. If there's a reasonable percentage on the table the chances are the dispute could be more about the return leg percentages in the US. That looks to be the more lucrative fight, depending on how the first one goes.
            That's what I'm wondering as well. Of all that Hearn has said, he hasn't said that he sent a counter and they are negotiating off of that. That's quite curious given the amount of public negotiating that happened in the beginning.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
              I’d take less money to have a historic even at home with near 100k people. He’s 28 years old and already has a s hit ton of money and will make a sh it ton of money regardless. What’s 50 when you can make 40 and plan on winning and making more after? Take a little less and be part of a huge event and exercise your A-side status?

              I wonder what he’ll do... Hell, I doubt wilder makes more money fighting him in the states anyhow.

              This SHOULD be a no brainer...but it somehow isn’t? I don’t get it.

              In fact, Wilder even trying to get AJ to the states is kind of insane and delusional. It’s better than 50% by GGG though... at least Wilder is putting some money down and trying to buy it from him.
              "Give me 50m and I'll sign tomorrow"

              AJ fk boys have his nuts so far down their throat

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Holler View Post
                Did you read the interview? Hearn also said:



                We don't know what those clauses were, but I can certainly think of some that would make any offer impossible to accept as I'm sure you could also.

                The key point is for a deal to work it has to work for both parties and it seems Wilder's offer in its entirety didn't work for Joshua.



                Can you explain how giving Wilder what Finkel said he wanted for a fight in the UK equates to Joshua keeping his word on an entirely different offer? Because I can't see any relation between the two?
                The offer didn’t work for Joshua because he wants it in u.k dumbazz and Hearn wasn’t going be lead promoter

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                  That's what I'm wondering as well. Of all that Hearn has said, he hasn't said that he sent a counter and they are negotiating off of that. That's quite curious given the amount of public negotiating that happened in the beginning.
                  He said he would send a revised offer. What that revised offer entails is anyone's guess. I guess we'll find out more if(When) it falls through this week

                  https://www.boxingscene.com/joshuas-...wilder--127694

                  Hearn has already offered the WBC champion a flat fee of £8.8m [$12.5m] for the fight but the offer was rejected by Wilder and his team.

                  They then returned with a counter offer of £35m [$50m] for Joshua but were not willing to discuss the details of the proposal - leaving the heavyweight duel dead in the water.

                  Now Hearn is ready to up the stakes with a fresh deal which he believes will be enough to tempt Wilder into a Wembley showdown this September.

                  He said: “I will send them a new offer.

                  “It could be an increase in the basic fee, it could be a bigger split, it could be a bit of both.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Karoriori View Post
                    Lost all respect for AJ and Hearn when the Parker fight happened. Both said the ref did a great job... The officiating for Wilder vs Ortiz wasn't much better. The obvious fixing is a disgrace
                    Amen. Only 3 people in the world thought the ref did okay and that was AJ and Hearn Jnr and Snr.

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                    • #60
                      All these interviews Hearn keeps doing I have yet to hear him say he sent a new contract over moving away from that 12.5mil flat fee...... Are you still wanting wilder team to front the purses with aj taking a pay cut but staging in U.K.?

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