Outlaw The WBC

[Larry the boss]

why??????? did they not force Canelo to fight GGG in the 1st place? So now that they are forcing GGG into a situation it is an issue?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/18/sports/sp-38449

Very eye-opening article, man!

[N/A]

Who pays you?

Can't reveal that.

What is your specific relationship to these org's?

One of us is friendly with one president of each org. None of us work for the orgs. There's so much misinformation about the orgs and how they operate that we decided to shed some light on how things work.

The 3 of you are the PR for the alphabet org's, correct?

No. Definitely not. I've posted repeatedly that I hope all the orgs go out of business some day. I've posted repeatedly that I stopped recognizing the WBA when they added super titles and that I never recognized the WBO.

I am not pro org. I want the orgs to die. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be discussed honestly.

[N/A]

I knew a manager who went to WBC convention and bribed for rating .
His boxer never faced a top 20 contender.
Yet, he got a mandatory title shot .

You could be making this up.

He could have been making it up.

I've known a lot of managers and promoters that have paid a lot of bribes and I don't know a single one that paid a bribe for a WBC rating.

Donate to the WBC convention to stay in the good graces? Sure. Overstate purses to increase the sanctioning fee to stay in the good graces? Sure. Pay for lots of regional titles to stay in the good graces? Sure.

Pay for a rating? No. And in the 55 year history of the WBC, nobody has come forward about paying for ratings, even though the other orgs have had plenty come forward.

Do you have any evidence to support your claim? Who was he fighter who was named mandatory without fighting anybody in the top 20?

[Rock&Roll]

1.Can't reveal that.

One of us is friendly with one president of each org. None of us work for the orgs. There's so much misinformation about the orgs and how they operate that 2. we decided to shed some light on how things work.


No. Definitely not. I've posted repeatedly that I hope all the orgs go out of business some day. I've posted repeatedly that I stopped recognizing the WBA when they added super titles and that I never recognized the WBO.

3.I am not pro org. I want the orgs to die. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be discussed honestly.

1. Does your income come from the business of professional boxing? There is probably a conflict of intrest here either way.

2. How very noble of you...Three guys get together and decide to give up their time to spred some truths about the alphabet org's. How unselfish from the 3 of you.. Go team!
I'm calling bull****!! No need to elaborate.

3. You want the orgs to die, but you spend your time on here defending them with that username? A little counter productive...

More holes in your story than a swiss cheese.

[N/A]

1. Does your income come from the business of professional boxing? There is probably a conflict of intrest here either way.

Yes, but I am not paid by any sanctioning body or any promoter. Who pays me is irrelevant because I have not been sent here with any agenda other than correcting misconceptions about how the business of boxing operates.

2. How very noble of you...Three guys get together and decide to give up their time to spred some truths about the alphabet org's. How unselfish from the 3 of you.. Go team!
I'm calling bull****!! No need to elaborate.

We were all posting here anyway. Didn't really make any sense to have three different accounts largely focused on sanctioning body politics. So we teamed up. Don't see what the big deal is.

3. You want the orgs to die, but you spend your time on here defending them with that username? A little counter productive...

If they're unfairly attacked, I defend them. If people are confused about their rules or policies, I explain them. None of that changes the fact that boxing needs to adopt a UFC model that puts the sanctioning bodies out of business.

[jypehob]

"from word one"
what does that even mean?

[OCPancho]

You could be making this up.

He could have been making it up.

I've known a lot of managers and promoters that have paid a lot of bribes and I don't know a single one that paid a bribe for a WBC rating.

Donate to the WBC convention to stay in the good graces? Sure. Overstate purses to increase the sanctioning fee to stay in the good graces? Sure. Pay for lots of regional titles to stay in the good graces? Sure.

Pay for a rating? No. And in the 55 year history of the WBC, nobody has come forward about paying for ratings, even though the other orgs have had plenty come forward.

Do you have any evidence to support your claim? Who was he fighter who was named mandatory without fighting anybody in the top 20?

You don't know sh8.
Go ahead, seach Bobby Berna .

[OCPancho]

And you really think WBC is clean from Bob Arum's grease money?
How did Pac and Margarito end up fighting for the vacant WBC jr middle belt at a CATCHWEIGHT ???
Grow a brain .
That title fight was a scam .
NEITHER ONE BEAT a jr middle to earn a top 20 rating .
Pac never even fought above 147.

[N/A]

You don't know sh8.
Go ahead, seach Bobby Berna .

Hard to use him as an example of an undeserving challenger when he won a world title in his very next fight.

It was reported at the time that he hadn't beaten anybody in the top 10. You're claiming he hadn't beaten anybody in the top 20, but I'm not sure how you expect me to find the top 20 WBC rankings from 1983.