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  • AddiX
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    #51
    I can't believe any promoters still let their fighters fight for wbc belts.

    WBC would never allow .vada testing unless Haymon was ok with it, everyone knows Haymon has crazy pull over the wbc.

    This is the same guy that refused to let any of his fighters do VADA testing for YEARS after 2 of his guys tested positive. Now suddenly he's ok with it, and none of HIS guys test positive. What a coincidence.

    But the guys Haymon doesn't want his guys to fight test positive, the guys on other promotions test positive.

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    • OCPancho
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      #52
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      Hard to use him as an example of an undeserving challenger when he won a world title in his very next fight.

      It was reported at the time that he hadn't beaten anybody in the top 10. You're claiming he hadn't beaten anybody in the top 20, but I'm not sure how you expect me to find the top 20 WBC rankings from 1983.
      LOL Look at the records of his opponents after his last loss. LO They were mostly below .500 boxers. How could they have been rated ?
      He got the IBF title shot b/c his manager also GREASED IBF. IT was USBAI then . Berna won on a headutt and was promptly TKO'd in the rematch.
      OK, which top 20 did Pac and Margarito beat to earn their title shot at the vacant jr middle belt ????
      WHAT HAPPENED to #1 and #2 ?

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        #53
        Originally posted by OCPancho
        LOL Look at the records of his opponents after his last loss. LO They were mostly below .500 boxers. How could they have been rated ?
        He got the IBF title shot b/c his manager also GREASED IBF. IT was USBAI then . Berna won on a headutt and was promptly TKO'd in the rematch.
        OK, which top 20 did Pac and Margarito beat to earn their title shot at the vacant jr middle belt ????
        WHAT HAPPENED to #1 and #2 ?
        Margarito was the reigning WBC international champion in the weight class and was the most highly regarded WBC champion at the weight when the world championship became vacant, which is how he earned his #1 ranking.

        Pacquiao was a reigning world champion at the weight class below, as well as the WBC diamond champion at the weight class below, putting him in position to request to be the mandatory at the next weight. Most of the orgs allow this.

        Did the WBC cater to them because they were big stars? Of course. Since the WBC's inception, it has always catered to the biggest stars and tried to help make the biggest fights, which is how it earned its position as the biggest championship.

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        • OCPancho
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          #54
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Margarito was the reigning WBC international champion in the weight class and was the most highly regarded WBC champion at the weight when the world championship became vacant, which is how he earned his #1 ranking.

          Pacquiao was a reigning world champion at the weight class below, as well as the WBC diamond champion at the weight class below, putting him in position to request to be the mandatory at the next weight. Most of the orgs allow this.

          Did the WBC cater to them because they were big stars? Of course. Since the WBC's inception, it has always catered to the biggest stars and tried to help make the biggest fights, which is how it earned its position as the biggest championship.
          Margacheato had one fight at 154 and it was against a nobody .
          How did Matthew Hatton deserve a title shot ?
          Another crooked move.

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            #55
            agreed, they are horrendous, and have shown blatant corruption in most divisions in recent years. only way to defend them is to say wba and others are also terrible, truth to that but like saying may as well support trump as hillary is a corrupt cunt as well. Suliaman would be a worse US president than either. Probably.

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              #56
              Originally posted by OCPancho
              Margacheato had one fight at 154 and it was against a nobody .
              But it was for the international championship. Winning regional titles is often how you get yourself in contention for world championships.


              How did Matthew Hatton deserve a title shot ?
              Another crooked move.
              Nothing crooked about it. The WBC's job is to facilitate big fights. They're allowed to cater to big stars like Canelo. Big purses = big sanctioning fees.

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                #57
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                But it was for the international championship. Winning regional titles is often how you get yourself in contention for world championships.




                Nothing crooked about it. The WBC's job is to facilitate big fights. They're allowed to cater to big stars like Canelo. Big purses = big sanctioning fees.
                Except the international belt is some bullsh8 title as well. A set-up fake belt shortcut to a title shot. It's not even a regional title . What region ?

                Matthew Hatton had not fought any jr middles . And surely did not deserve a shot at a vacant title .

                Bending rules to cater to a MEXICAN by WBC?
                Corruption.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by OCPancho
                  Except the international belt is some bullsh8 title as well. A set-up fake belt shortcut to a title shot. It's not even a regional title . What region ?
                  If that's your position, then they're all bull**** titles. Which is fine. But it's like saying winning the Western Conference shouldn't make you eligible for the NBA finals because the Western Conference championship is a bull**** title.

                  The international championship is the highest regional title available in the WBC, it means you are the champion above the national and continental champions, but just below the world champion.



                  Matthew Hatton had not fought any jr middles . And surely did not deserve a shot at a vacant title .
                  Thank you for your opinion. It's a fight that was already scheduled. Canelo was already the silver world champion, the world title became vacant, so the WBC approved Canelo's fight, which was already taking place, to fill the vacancy. Hatton was very highly ranked at the weight class below, due to being EBU champion, which makes you a top contender since the EBU founded the WBC.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    If that's your position, then they're all bull**** titles. Which is fine. But it's like saying winning the Western Conference shouldn't make you eligible for the NBA finals because the Western Conference championship is a bull**** title.

                    The international championship is the highest regional title available in the WBC, it means you are the champion above the national and continental champions, but just below the world champion.





                    Thank you for your opinion. It's a fight that was already scheduled. Canelo was already the silver world champion, the world title became vacant, so the WBC approved Canelo's fight, which was already taking place, to fill the vacancy. Hatton was very highly ranked at the weight class below, due to being EBU champion, which makes you a top contender since the EBU founded the WBC.
                    Winning the conference title means you beat out the other playoff contending teams . Not one team that did not even deserve to be there .
                    Dude, We Be Corrupt is corrupt. They are not better than WBA or IBF. They are all corrupt .

                    You are still trying to justify a CATCHWEIGHT title fight for A VACANT TITLE ? Happened twice in a row for We Be Corrupt .
                    Matthew Hatton was a WELTERWEIGHT and was NOT RATED IN THE TOP 10 jr middleweight .
                    Sh8 like that happens on OPTIONAL defense by champions. Not a freaking two fighters fighting for a vacant title .

                    Go ahead, name another instant outside of ****** WBC catchweight fights for VACANT TITLES ?
                    Leonard-Lalonde ? Pac-Cheato? Hatton-Canelo ?
                    WE BE CORRUPT.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by OCPancho
                      Winning the conference title means you beat out the other playoff contending teams . Not one team that did not even deserve to be there .
                      Not everybody wants to spend the money to fight for regional titles. This is how the game is played. You have four major leagues, the talent is spread across them, and it's not always going to be great fighters as the B-side of a regional title fight.


                      Dude, We Be Corrupt is corrupt. They are not better than WBA or IBF. They are all corrupt .
                      WBA and IBF were caught taking bribes and exposed. That alone makes the WBC better.

                      You are not pointing out corruption. I don't think you know what corruption actually is.

                      There is nothing dishonest or fraudulent about the WBC facilitating big fights. That is their job.


                      You are still trying to justify a CATCHWEIGHT title fight for A VACANT TITLE ? Happened twice in a row for We Be Corrupt .
                      I don't have to justify anything. If it was up to me, all the sanctioning bodies would go out of business.

                      But as far as a sanctioning body is concerned, there is nothing they can do to stop two fighters from voluntarily agreeing to weigh in under the division limit. The WBC contract states the division limit on it. If the fighters want to make a voluntary agreement for a lower weight, it's none of the sanctioning body's business.

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