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  • Kezzer
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    #11
    I thought you meant the wbc wba wbo guy before I opened thread. But yeah I agree, based on most recent actions the wbc does appear the most corrupt.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Kezzer
      I thought you meant the wbc wba wbo guy before I opened thread. But yeah I agree, based on most recent actions the wbc does appear the most corrupt.
      The only org without a bribery scandal is the most corrupt?

      There's nothing corrupt about wanting to see big fights happen. The WBC wants big fights to happen. Their #1 job is to be a middleman between promoters to help facilitate big fights.

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        #13
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        The only org without a bribery scandal is the most corrupt?

        There's nothing corrupt about wanting to see big fights happen. The WBC wants big fights to happen. Their #1 job is to be a middleman between promoters to help facilitate big fights.

        The point is how they act, in particular how they are viewdd by casuals.

        Just look at the heavyweight which is the pinnacle of the sport. Wilder has been forced to face nobody , breazeale was made mandatory despite Whyte being ranked highest and having the silver belt. Really makes no sense. You can argue all you like about it but if they want to be seen as the leading belt they must make the casuals understand their logic. More recently it is always the opposite.

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          #14
          Because the rochigginai debacle wasnt a clear case of bull**** from the WBC..

          Or the refusal to sanction fights until Don king was installed as promoter back in the day.

          Just because they havent been red-handed letter of the law caught doesnt mean they arent guilty of the same ****housery as everyone else, and a paid shill on a forum isnt going to make anyone think otherwise.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Kezzer
            look at the heavyweight which is the pinnacle of the sport. Wilder has been forced to face nobody
            It's not the WBC's fault that Povetkin failed multiple drug tests. Who exactly has the IBF forced AJ to face? Surely you'd concede that King Kong is a bigger win than Takam? And what does any of this have to do with corruption?


            breazeale was made mandatory despite Whyte being ranked highest and having the silver belt. Really makes no sense.
            Makes total sense. Stiverne was #1 and the mandatory. He signed to risk his position against Breazeale. No different than David Price being allowed to leap frog everyone and become mandatory if he beat Povetkin. Eddie Hearn literally just did the same thing.

            The difference is that Ortiz failed a test, which moved Stiverne back to the main event. At that point, Breazeale was still legally entitled to a final eliminator and he agreed to face the highest ranked available contender. Had Whyte agreed to cancel his other fight to face Breazeale, then Breazeale would have had to face Whyte. Molina was the highest ranked guy willing to fill in on short notice.


            You can argue all you like about it but if they want to be seen as the leading belt they must make the casuals understand their logic. More recently it is always the opposite.
            They're already seen as the leading belt and always have been. Casuals don't care about the logic and will never understand because promoters and networks don't want them to.

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              #16
              Originally posted by yammy25
              Because the rochigginai debacle wasnt a clear case of bull**** from the WBC..
              The WBC has always catered to the biggest stars. That is very different from being bribed to cater to nobodies. If you want to criticize the WBC for bending the rules in favor of big stars, go ahead. I won't argue that point. I've always said the WBC does this. What they don't do is take bribes for rankings like all the others have been caught doing.

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                #17
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                The WBC has always catered to the biggest stars. That is very different from being bribed to cater to nobodies. If you want to criticize the WBC for bending the rules in favor of big stars, go ahead. I won't argue that point. I've always said the WBC does this. What they don't do is take bribes for rankings like all the others have been caught doing.
                Bending the rules - blatantly going against an installed champion and sending him a bull**** letter about him not being champion when by their own rules he was they just wanted to cash in on that RJJ money by re-installing him completely unethically and illegally.

                They might not have been caught taking bribes, but theirs enough Don kIng era bull**** for it to be acknowledged as having happened. I know you follow the letter and every definition to prove a point so we wont argue that they havent been caught taking bribes because by logic, they havent.

                But that does'nt mean they arent as shady as everyone else.. youve just admitted you wont argue that they bend their own rules, which ive just stated has in cases been ruled illegal, to service bigger stars which in turn means their own pockets by sanctioning fees.. so

                **** them all... everyone in your name, and the WBO .. **** em

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by yammy25
                  Bending the rules - blatantly going against an installed champion and sending him a bull**** letter about him not being champion when by their own rules he was they just wanted to cash in on that RJJ money by re-installing him completely unethically and illegally.

                  They might not have been caught taking bribes, but theirs enough Don kIng era bull**** for it to be acknowledged as having happened. I know you follow the letter and every definition to prove a point so we wont argue that they havent been caught taking bribes because by logic, they havent.

                  But that does'nt mean they arent as shady as everyone else.. youve just admitted you wont argue that they bend their own rules, which ive just stated has in cases been ruled illegal, to service bigger stars which in turn means their own pockets by sanctioning fees.. so

                  **** them all... everyone in your name, and the WBO .. **** em
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  The WBA was outed by Bob Arum for taking huge bribes for years.

                  The WBO was founded by the WBA bribe taker Arum outed.

                  The IBF was caught taking huge bribes for years and the president went to jail.


                  The WBC has never been caught taking bribes and those connected to the sanctioning bodies will tell you the WBC never took bribes because the Sulaimans were already so rich they weren't willing to take bribes.
                  Now thats funny .. because in 2003 the WBC filed for bankruptcy after being sued for corruption by Rocchigiani and ordered to pay him $31million in damages.

                  Unfortunately, Rocchigiani agreed to accept a lesser sum in an out of court settlement and We Be Crooks managed to avoid being closed down for good.

                  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...uge-debts.html
                  Last edited by kafkod; 05-30-2018, 01:34 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Now thats funny .. because in 2003 the WBC filed for bankruptcy after being sued for corruption by Rocchigiani and ordered to pay him $31million in damages.
                    Nothing funny about it. The WBC is a non-profit organization. The fact that the WBC was bankrupt doesn't change the fact that the Sulaiman family is very wealthy.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Nothing funny about it. The WBC is a non-profit organization. The fact that the WBC was bankrupt doesn't change the fact that the Sulaiman family is very wealthy.
                      Now that's even funnier!

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