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  • #91
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
    I haven't...
    Well I have.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by McNulty View Post
      Shoulder popping in/out is a very bad injury. If true, he's got torn ligaments and even bluechip orthopedic sports medicine surgeons will tell you that surgery to fix torn ligaments produces more pain more often than not than what you came in with. Pretty much a career ending injury.

      Klimas is telling a fib here. If his shoulder came out of the socket, he would have taken a 10 count --- actually more like an 800 count while screaming bloody murder. Also, if his shoulder has a history of coming out of the socket, he would NEVER EVER EVER pull his arms out of the clinch like he did against Rigondeaux and other fighters. Out of socket will bring the biggest of men to their knee's.

      For the labrum tear which is a SLAP tear, the surgeon will tell him 8 weeks recovery, but it's really 16 weeks to be pain free and safe. This is all very surgeon dependant and not all surgeons are cut from the same cloth.

      SLAP tears are from overuse and by his work ethic, that's probably the case. I highly doubt his shoulder is coming out of the socket. I think people often identify with the words popping out of the socket as pop culture in cinema (Mel Gibson did it a ton in the Lethal Weapon series) has made its it very household.

      Also, the headline says indefinitely and the body of text doen't say that at all. Y'all need to fix these dang headlines!
      not necessarily. My left pops out often now from too many injuries. I once had it pop out (minor) for a couple of days from playing baseball. it hurt like hell but I could still use it, so I didn't know it was even out. One day I went to move a chair and when I picked it up there was a loud "snap" and my arm felt fine again. I laughed, My friends laughed, My girlfriend threw up. Good times.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Damn Wicked View Post
        That sounds like a great and deceptive strategy. It seem to recall someone else using that strategy very effectively before, but I can't seem to recall the guy's name...
        Lol. everyone will forget that name because of his boring style of boxing.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
          Sorry to hear that what was the recovery time? And how did they perform once returning?
          He was out a year went to spar with Joesph Diaz with a year out it was an even fight and it dislocated. So he had to stop . He was only boxing 3.5 years compared to Joesph 7 and he was on his way of over taking him . He was boxing 8 months fought Joesph Diaz at Desert Show down fight could have gone either way but they gave it to Joesph . Than in 2009 just before the JO he fought Diaz again beats him for 2 3/4 rounds Diaz wins the last 30 seconds of the fight they gave to Diaz I just shook my head. Than 2009 he goes to win the JO Olympic Title . Than at the National Golden Gloves it dislocates in the finals. I can tell by the look of some trainers they were glad he wasn’t going to box anymore. You can see him on YouTube 2009 Jo Olympic Championships Hector Luna is his name

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
            Yes, I know at least two had it immediately operated on. One was a guy I worked with in a hospital, who has the best care possible, and was a rock climber. 5 years later, he still couldn't do what he once did. The other was an accountant who was out of the gym for 5 months or so after surgery, and never had full strength, even a year later. It wasn't even so much the strength as the flexibility. It's something that always concerned me because of how many people I've known who have been set back by shoulder injuries. It's made me very cautious.

            I know fans want to think that things can be mended and 100% again but it's never 100%. A significant injury will always nag you and hold you back to an extent, which is really unfortunate as Loma is on a tear and in his prime. I think he's going to have a great career but I am bummed that he's going to now has gone through an injury in his prime that might hold him back from full potential.
            Well, let's hope for the best. Loma already had problems with knuckle on the left hand since amateur days - that's why he fought with Piriyapinyo with one hand. Now it seems fine. Let's see what happens with the shoulder. I'm an optimist.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
              Larry is also still imagining how Torrecampo, Singsurat and Marquez 4 put PAc to sleep for 10 counts.
              And you imagined that it was floyd who did it.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                Yes, I know at least two had it immediately operated on. One was a guy I worked with in a hospital, who has the best care possible, and was a rock climber. 5 years later, he still couldn't do what he once did. The other was an accountant who was out of the gym for 5 months or so after surgery, and never had full strength, even a year later. It wasn't even so much the strength as the flexibility. It's something that always concerned me because of how many people I've known who have been set back by shoulder injuries. It's made me very cautious.

                I know fans want to think that things can be mended and 100% again but it's never 100%. A significant injury will always nag you and hold you back to an extent, which is really unfortunate as Loma is on a tear and in his prime. I think he's going to have a great career but I am bummed that he's going to now has gone through an injury in his prime that might hold him back from full potential.
                All true. It's a cartilage issue and it does not regenerate. I've dealt with this forever. The recommended Rx for this is to avoid movements that directly impact the injury and for a pro athlete that does not leave a lot of options. The arthroscopic surgery will just trim up cartilage slightly but it's really questionable if doing so improves anything anyways. Mostly they just want to stick the camera in there to see 100% what is going on and trim things since they are already inside. It's definitely a compromised shoulder for life and he will always need some kind of exemption (TUE) for something to fight I'd think. Not good at all.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                  Body breaking down after only 12 fights.
                  yeah reminds me of when floyd hurt his shoulder vs Castillo in the first fight. His body was really breaking down from that point on that early in his career

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                  • #99
                    Linares made Loma's shoulder pop in & out of it's socket.

                    Light Weight Kingpin Mikey Garcia will make Loma's head pop in & out of his neck socket , till it flies clean off into the third row.

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                    • The labrum is not the issue if his shoulder pops in and out of socket....all he can do is stay in shape year round and hope for the best.

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