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  • Metho_4u
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    #111
    Originally posted by jaded
    What happens with injuries like this is that the pain causes muscles and tendons to spasm...this is how your body protects you from further damaging yourself. It locks you up with spasms that shut you down with pain and limit your range of motion to protect the injury.

    So you rest and with good massage and trigger point release the pain settles down and the range of motion returns until you set things off again doing what caused it to spasm up in the first place. And since the cartilage will always be compromised this cycle can't be avoided if you are going to punch for a living.

    You get used to the pain and train through it and make adjustments...but these things DO make it harder obviously to be 100% and full strength never returns mostly because of the pain. Fight night he will probably get a Tordal injection (providing he gets the TUE) and nothing will hurt and he will be strong but not as strong as he would be if he could have trained pain free and with full flexibility with full range of motion.

    Everything about boxing takes it's tole on the body and it breaks the body down. He's already 30 I believe and probably not looking to box forever. He will carry on I think for some years to come...like Floyd did with bad hands and all. Manny took Tordal injections for his shoulder for some time before the Mayweather fight as I recall (remember the bruhaha about him being denied it for the Mayweather fight?).

    My guess is this has been coming on for some time. It starts off at a manageable level and then it reaches a breaking point. Let's hope for the best.
    Maybe they will go down this route http://cses.cumc.columbia.edu/care-newtreatment.html

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    • belmondoss
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      #112
      Originally posted by HarvardBlue
      I'm curious why it took this long for this to come out?
      All these medical investigations takes time to be proven 100%.
      So Loma beat da **** outta one of the top fighters in this weight class with one hand.. cmon haters stick your tongues into your own....

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      • jaded
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        #113
        Originally posted by Metho_4u
        Maybe they will go down this route http://cses.cumc.columbia.edu/care-newtreatment.html
        I've heard about this...but there really isn't much to support that it actually works.

        PRP is a simple regenerative medicine concept that’s still far from clinically proven.


        Anyways...that's for Musculoskeletal Injuries. Cartilage is not really typical musculoskeletal in any event...because there are no blood vessels in cartilage so how could plasma have any effect? I and many others wish there was a way to regenerate cartilage but there is not. They are working on cloning cartilage but maybe some day in the future...not for now even for those who could afford it like Lomo.
        Last edited by jaded; 05-30-2018, 01:11 AM.

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        • Metho_4u
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          #114
          Originally posted by jaded
          I've heard about this...but there really isn't much to support that it actually works.

          PRP is a simple regenerative medicine concept that’s still far from clinically proven.


          Anyways...that's for Musculoskeletal Injuries. Cartilage is not really typical musculoskeletal in any event...because there are no blood vessels in cartilage so how could plasma have any effect? I and many others wish there was a way to regenerate cartilage but there is not. They are working on cloning cartilage but maybe some day in the future...not for now even for those who could afford it like Lomo.
          Or... could try tb-500, or this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20225319/

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          • jaded
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            #115
            Originally posted by Metho_4u
            Or... could try tb-500, or this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20225319/
            If you read your link you will see that's for ligaments. You know the difference between ligaments and cartilage...right? Are you trolling here?

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            • Metho_4u
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              #116
              Originally posted by jaded
              If you read your link you will see that's for ligaments. You know the difference between ligaments and cartilage...right? Are you trolling here?
              Not at all, but various people have used it and logged there results with various degrees of success for similar injuries, so healing may be possible with it.

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              • jaded
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                #117
                Originally posted by Metho_4u
                Not at all, but various people have used it and logged there results with various degrees of success for similar injuries, so healing may be possible with it.
                Show me where and who use it for shoulder cartilage then. You understand that cartilage has no blood vessels right? So nothing you take is ever going to find it's way circulating to it.

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                • Ajvar
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove
                  I've actually been wondering why he doesn't receive the kind of hate from the people who always hate "show-offs" who taunt and play in the ring that we normally see. I rarely see it mentioned. It's almost like if some guys do it, like Crawford, they're mean-spirited bullies, but if other guys do it, it's like a cute foreigner thing...?
                  Watch the face of showboater. One has disgusting look which tries to demoralize opponent (to the level people hate him) while another has cheerful look of self happiness and self confidence trying to increase his own state instead of trying to lower opponent's.

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                  • P4Pdunny
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                    #119
                    thats a long time man

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                    • Ajvar
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                      That's just speculation, but Kellerman's comment about Loma doing it as an "empathetic gesture" was so ridiculous, sometimes you have to wonder if there's not something more going on with him.
                      He looks gayish. I mean, you clearly can hear how he "likes" Loma.

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