Where did pac's "power" go?

[BO$$NELO]

It seemed more like Mayweather had no power after their fight. Who did Mayweather knock down after the Pacquiao fight??????? Nobody!!!! Pacquiao knocked Vargas down. He knocked tough Bradley down.He almost knocked Horn out. He knocked Algieri down 6 times. How did he do that with his power completely gone you Pacquiao hating **** popsicle licking ass hole?

Well Floyd only fought Berto and McGregor "after their fight" and he TKO'd McGregor. Floyd was never a power puncher and I think only has 1 stoppage win @ WW and that was Ortiz quitting.

Pac KTFO a kickboxer is about as impressive as Floyd TKO McGregor...unimpressive.

Vargas and Bradley KD were good, solid. Nonetheless the facebreaking (Margarito) and Shane/Cotto power was mysteriously "gone". And Shane/Margs/Cotto were large WW who all got pummeled. Neither Vargas or Bradley are or ever were "big" WW. Probably a bit small or average at best.

[Dosumpthin]

What are you even rambling on about now fool ?

You’re making statements with no evidence, no back up but whatever comes out of your ass which is sht

I can see you are trolling now, enjoy it

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Gtfo this site, the sht happened way before you even started watching boxing Kid

You are so dumb that you don’t even know it Was Ariza who people claimed have ped shakes. Guess who hired him afterwards fool, floyd

That makes your thread invalid as Floyd used the same guy!! I’m done

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Let's see who is full of ****. Ready?

[IronDanHamza]

Did his power really go away?

He hurt or dropped every single fighter he faced since then even to this day including Floyd.

As he aged and became less and less explosive yeah of course it faded but he fan still clearly punch damn hard. He's never been a massive one punch guy.

[Ganondorf]

what happened to Mayweather's power?

he moved up less divisions and he's the same age as pac. he was wrecking P4P guys like Corrales then he became a powder puff girl.


what happened?

Maybe you haven’t heard but Floyd has a long history of hand problems. I’m sure you could probably pull up something on google if you tried.

[paulf]

He went from being a fulltime boxer I'm his prime to a celeb that trains 16 weeks out of the year.... sometimes half assedly.

[soul_survivor]

The guy still seriously damages and reconstructs faces, so the power is there. Is it as explosive as it once was? Of course not, because the speed is gone and has been gone for years.

****** thread but a great way to get some pages.

[abracada]

Nah a red flag is taking the same iv as Armstrong which were used to masked peds

Then being exposed and claiming to be weight drained despite walking around fight night weight lmao

PACs power was always a sustained beating, he still has one shot power but the most powerful hits are the ones you don’t see coming, I don’t expect a coach fan to understand this

Pacquiao does not train in between fights so it was only normal for him to decline with age and lose a lot of his timing and speed as he aged

Agreed he is a volume puncher, sometimes he would catch someone eg hatton but he was never a Mike Tyson

[man down]

I never thought he had a lot of power. Yes he had some power but not the wtf kind. His speed, angles, and power got him ko's.

[richardt]

The myth of Pacquiao and carrying power through the divisions.


Age/Weight Performance Summary


Weight

Age Range

Record

Kayos (%)


=<112lbs 16-17 12-1 4 (30%)
112lbs 17-20 14-1 13 (87%)
122lbs 21-24 11-0-1 11 (92%)
126lbs 24-25 2-0-1 2 (66%)
130lbs 26-29 7-1 4 (50%)
135lbs 29 1-0 1 (100%)
140lbs 30 1-0 1 (100%)
147lbs 30-36 9-2 2 (18%)

Pacquiao's mysterious ability to carry ridiculous power up through the weight classes is a really popular talking point by the (for what of a better term) pro-Pacquiao-PED gang, or the PPPs for short.

So let's break down his career into weights and ages, using Pacquiao's full record on Boxrec.

Early Career

Pro debut aged 16 and 1 month, he weighed 106lbs (light flyweight).

4th fight, aged 16, is at 110lbs (flyweight). His first loss is at flyweight, aged 17 as he is knocked out by the 23 year old Torrecampo in February 1996. After a decision victory in his next fight, Pacquiao is 11-1 with 4 kayos. That's a 30% knockout ratio.

112lbs + First World Title

He then goes on a knockout run culminating in winning his first world title, aged 18, the WBC flyweight title. Only 1 opponent makes it the distance in 14 fights. In his third defense of the title, Pacquiao misses weight and is knocked out with a body shot by rising Thai prospect Singsurat, who is 18-0 and 6 months older than Pacquiao whom attributes the loss to weight draining.

122lbs + Second World Title

Pacquiao then goes up 3 weight divisions for his next fight (yes, 3 - bypassing super flyweight and bantamweight) to successfully challenge for the super bantamweight title in December 1999, on his 21st birthday. He fights 12 times in total at 122lbs, winning all fights by kayo and drawing once in a fight prematurely sent to the scorecards after a cut opened by some awful fouls (how this wasn't a DQ is crazy). He last fights at 122lbs aged 24.

126lbs

His stint at featherweight is brief. He defeats Barrera before being robbed of the title by a judging error in his dramatic draw with Juan Manuel Marquez, as the judge who scores it a draw only awards Pacquiao 10-7 for the first round instead of 10-6. He knocks out one more opponent for a final 126lbs record of 2-0-1 (2 kayos) ages 24-25.

130lbs + 3rd World Title

He debuts at 130lbs aged 26, challenging Morales for his super featherweight titles, suffering defeat at the first time above 112lbs. He rebounds to stop Morales twice but is taken the distance in victories over Marquez, Barrera, and Oscar Larios for a final 130lb record of 7-1 with 4 kayos. His destructive power is already not quite as evident at this weight class albeit he is in with elite opponents on a regular basis.

The Rise That Scared Mayweather

He fought once at lightweight, thrashing Diaz en route to a 9th round stoppage. His next fight is at welterweight against Oscar De La Hoya, who, having had serious problems making weight, is stopped on his stool for an 8th round retirement just short of his 30th birthday.

The next 2 fights set up the Pacquiao "must be on PEDs" myth. At 140lbs, Pacquiao destroys Hatton who is unable to deal with Pacquiao's speed and accuracy. Hatton fought a horrible fight, without defense and wild offense.

147lbs + The Last KO

Pacquiao returns to 147lbs to fight Cotto at a catchweight of 145lbs. Cotto is game and brings the fight to Pacquiao, but pays the price as he is dropped twice before succumbing to a 12th round TKO. It is the last stoppage victory of Pacquiao's career (to date).

At welterweight, against competitive opposition there is only 1 stoppage (Cotto). He came close to getting other stoppages (Margarito, Marquez, Algieri) and has dropped several guys (Mosley, Algieri, Marquez). His welterweight record, to date, is 9-2 with 2 kayos.

Conclusion

I think we can put to bed the notion that Pacquiao's punching power carried unhindered through the weights - one of the core arguments of the PPPs as to why he must have taken PEDs. There is a clear progression of 'power' which peaks at 122lbs. As he climbs above that, his kayo % drops (with insufficient samples at 135/140 to show this) and his stoppages trend towards later in fights after accumulation.

[BO$$NELO]

Did his power really go away?

He hurt or dropped every single fighter he faced since then even to this day including Floyd.

As he aged and became less and less explosive yeah of course it faded but he fan still clearly punch damn hard. He's never been a massive one punch guy.

This is also very true