Comments Thread For: Golovkin Promoter: Canelo Wants 65-35, We Want Fair 50-50 Split!

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  • paulf
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    #391
    Originally posted by OnePunch
    maybe, maybe not. Losing the IBF title, and the threat of a pretty solid breach of contract lawsuit has to sweeten the pot substantially.

    I agree though that 50-50 is a non starter. But you have to begin somewhere.

    I would suspect that somewhere between 60-40 and 55-45 would get it done, with GGG agreeing to waive any possible damages over the May 5 cancellation.........
    Do you really think that is the play though? Playing hardball to get a better split, but not actually asking for 50-50? Asking because I respect your opinion.

    I think Tom Loeffler is playing a really dangerous game of chicken that he's on the verge of losing.

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    • OnePunch
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      #392
      Originally posted by paulf
      Do you really think that is the play though? Playing hardball to get a better split, but not actually asking for 50-50? Asking because I respect your opinion.

      I think Tom Loeffler is playing a really dangerous game of chicken that he's on the verge of losing.
      There are too many variables that I dont personally know, in order to make a fair assessment, mainly Golovkins physical condition, and how long he plans to continue fighting.

      I can tell you if I was loeffler, ultimately my decision would depend on how many more fights the team thinks GGG has in him. If he is not truly in decline and plans to fight for at least 2 or 3 more years, then I would stand firm on the canelo demands, let the fight fall apart, fight Derev or Charlo for substantially less money, and use the lower purse as evidence of damages in a lawsuit against Canelo.

      If however GGGs physical condition is not good enough to take that gamble and they think he will retire in less than 2 years, then loeffler should play hardball as long as possible, but ultimately settle for whatever they can get. His job is to do what is best for Gennedy Golovkin, not what is best for boxing. He cant really worry about fan opinion too much, because 3 months (or 3 days lol) after GGG is retired everyone will move on to other topics.
      Last edited by OnePunch; 05-27-2018, 11:21 PM.

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      • paulf
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        #393
        Originally posted by OnePunch
        There are too many variables that I dont personally know, in order to make a fair assessment, mainly Golovkins physical condition, and how long he plans to continue fighting.

        I can tell you if I was loeffler, ultimately my decision would depend on how many more fights the team thinks GGG has in him. If he is not truly in decline and plans to fight for at least 2 or 3 more years, then I would stand firm on the canelo demands, let the fight fall apart, fight Derev or Charlo for substantially less money, and use the lower purse as evidence of damages in a lawsuit against Canelo.

        If however GGGs physical condition is not good enough to take that gamble and they think he will retire in less than 2 years, then loeffler should play hardball as long as possible, but ultimately settle for whatever they can get. His job is to do what is best for Gennedy Golovkin, not what is best for boxing. He cant really worry about fan opinion too much, because 3 months (or 3 days lol) after GGG is retired everyone will move on to other topics.
        Really interesting... thank you. I've been trying to wrap my mind around Tom's angle and I find it confusing.

        All Canelo needs to out-maneuver GGG is a belt. If he can lure Saunders over here and get the WBO title, he can probably fight a voluntary before looking to make the GGG fight. That would be, what 18 months+ away? All the more advantage for Canelo.

        Meanwhile, GGG will need to fight dangerous fights to make any money.

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          #394
          60-40 is fair....Canelo is the A side, no matter wgat GGG thinks.

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            #395
            Originally posted by paulf
            Really interesting... thank you. I've been trying to wrap my mind around Tom's angle and I find it confusing.

            All Canelo needs to out-maneuver GGG is a belt. If he can lure Saunders over here and get the WBO title, he can probably fight a voluntary before looking to make the GGG fight. That would be, what 18 months+ away? All the more advantage for Canelo.

            Meanwhile, GGG will need to fight dangerous fights to make any money.
            I dont know that Canelo would want that fight with Saunders. Seeing him clown Lemieux like he did may have changed their opinion of Saunders. I know it changed mine. And not to mention that Frank Warren is not always the easiest guy to make a fight with.

            But that being said, I think a Canelo-GGG rematch either happens in the next 2 fights, or it doesnt happen at all. If it doesnt happen next, then Loeffler has a duty to file the lawsuit and go after damages for his client. Once that is filed, my personal opinion is that Golden Boy would make maybe 1 more attempt at making the fight, in exchange for GGG dropping the lawsuit. If that set of negotiations failed, I think the fight would be dead for good. It certainly would be dead for good if GGG ended up winning damages from Canelo.

            But of course this is all speculation on my part. I only know what I would do if I were in that situation.....
            Last edited by OnePunch; 05-27-2018, 11:48 PM.

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            • budfr
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              #396
              GGG can now fight Zurdo Ramirez on Mexican Independence Day...would sell pretty good.....hope he has the cohones to do it.

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                #397
                Originally posted by Robi13
                YOUre an idiot, canelo offering same terms as ggg agreed to foe may 5th gtfoh
                Yeah sure. Before he pissed hot for peds. Dumbass!!!!

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                • ThomasJK
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                  #398
                  Originally posted by BDG
                  Canelo had 70/30 split the first fight. Popped hot for the second fight but upped GGG percentage by 5%. How is he pricing himself out?



                  You can't price yourself out when your team is making the offer.
                  Sure he can. By demanding a riiculous percentage of the purse and not willing to take less. Thats called pricing himself out. Canelo thinks he is worth more than he really is. His stock has dropped, hes afraId he will lose the rematch without cheating, and he's oscars last ace in the hole. Gbp will fold without canelo.

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                  • 7NN
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                    #399
                    Originally posted by Verus
                    Look, GGG has already accepted a 65-35 split and chose to walk away from that. To be sensitive to GGG's feelings, GB should offer a 65-35 split PLUS an autographed picture of Bernard Hopkins and then call it a day. Time to MOVE ON folks.
                    Can you see the difference in a state of things between now and 4 months ago?

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                    • richardt
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                      #400
                      Originally posted by Fidel456
                      60 40 I'll kick yo ass!
                      Circuit Roy Jones Jr to Bernard Hopkins.

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