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  • Tamuera
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    #481
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    the negotiations were completed weeks ago
    And they are irrelevant now.

    You have a guy who brings in 4 belts vs zero, who gave up on his plan to fight in December in accord to Golden Boy's request, that accepted a minority cut for the rematch as well and then saw the rematch canceled because Canelo was caught doping.
    Also, fighting Canelo will probably mean he has to give up his IBF belt anyway.

    Of course he can now negotiate from a far more favorable position.
    He's the one who has anything to lose for this rematch, where the red headed cheat on the other hand can just offer a good pay day, and being now a known drug cheat is not even that clear how much his status of PPV seller will be affected.

    Besides, it's not like Canelo is going to make more money against anyone else either, on top of that. His fight with GGG was his biggest PPV sell that didn't involve Mayweather as well, and not even by a narrow margin.

    Then again, if Alvarez really doesn't even want to hear about an EQUAL split (which hilariously enough he seems to consider outrageous, being the usual diva we learned to know) good luck to both with the alternate options.
    I'm confident no one of the two will starve, anyway.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #482
      Originally posted by Tamuera
      And they are irrelevant now.

      You have a guy who brings in 4 belts vs zero, who gave up on his plan to fight in December in accord to Golden Boy's request, that accepted a minority cut for the rematch as well and then saw the rematch canceled because Canelo was caught doping.
      Also, fighting Canelo will probably mean he has to give up his IBF belt anyway.

      Of course he can now negotiate from a far more favorable position.
      He's the one who has anything to lose for this rematch, where the red headed cheat on the other hand can just offer a good pay day, and being now a known drug cheat is not even that clear how much his status of PPV seller will be affected.

      Besides, it's not like Canelo is going to make more money against anyone else either, on top of that. His fight with GGG was his biggest PPV sell that didn't involve Mayweather as well, and not even by a narrow margin.

      Then again, if Alvarez really doesn't even want to hear about an EQUAL split (which hilariously enough he seems to consider outrageous, being the usual diva we learned to know) good luck to both with the alternate options.
      I'm confident no one of the two will starve, anyway.


      STOP fixating on what Golovkin wants

      seriously, who gives a flying fat fk what Golovkin wants ?

      you sound like his mom

      Canelo does not, and should not, care..... so, Golovkin is dreaming

      purse splits are divided based on drawing power. And the fact remains that Alvarez is a bigger draw than Golovkin..... regardless of what happened in the first fight, and regardless about what happened in the drug test

      demanding 50% is absurd, and a clear sign that Golovkin wants out

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      • daggum
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        #483
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        STOP fixating on what Golovkin wants

        seriously, who gives a flying fat fk what Golovkin wants ?

        you sound like his mom

        Canelo does not, and should not, care..... so, Golovkin is dreaming

        purse splits are divided based on drawing power. And the fact remains that Alvarez is a bigger draw than Golovkin..... regardless of what happened in the first fight, and regardless about what happened in the drug test

        demanding 50% is absurd, and a clear sign that Golovkin wants out
        cept golovkin has leverage now. he knows canelos options are saunders and spike o sullivan. those proably aren't even ppv options so its canelo's best option to take 50-50. he knows that everyone thinks canelo lost the first fight and that everyone thinks he's a cheater. he is just using this new leverage to try and get more. sometimes you have to be willing to lose a fight to get the best deal. if the fight doesnt happen people will still think ggg is better than canelo and beat him and thats leverage. does he deserve it just based on drawing power obviously not but there are more variables than just that.

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        • Tamuera
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          #484
          Is that some form of autism or denial? Because I didn't argue for a second about "what Golovkin wants", as much as about what's fair.
          You are the one who sounds concerned with protecting your little darling readhead Mexican.

          Purse splits are decided based on a lot of factors. Drawing power is just a major one.
          How much belts they bring to the table another one.
          What the previous fight produced in revenues another one.
          The financial troubles and complications that come as consequences of Alvarez's past actions another one.
          Etc, etc.

          Canelo is NOT a mandatory, he's coming off from a xix months suspension for doping and GGG is under no obligation to face him again if he's not satisfied with the deal.
          There are lot of credible opponents ahead that will not be as profitable, but at least won't ***** and make demands as if they were the only divas in the room.

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          • -Johannes-
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            #485
            Golovkin should counteroffer 40% and take it while he can. Let's be real Canelo even with his PED scandal he is the A side. He outsells Golovkin by a considerable margin, we all know that he who controls the ppv sales controls the negotiations. Titles are not big enough leverage in this case because their marketability is so one sided.

            Golovkin can make good money with Saunders in England but that's it. If Saunders is presented the opportunity to fight ginger or golovkin I really think the answer is kind of obvious and a canelo fight would do bigger numbers therefore more money.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #486
              Originally posted by daggum
              cept golovkin has leverage now. he knows canelos options are saunders and spike o sullivan. those proably aren't even ppv options so its canelo's best option to take 50-50. he knows that everyone thinks canelo lost the first fight and that everyone thinks he's a cheater. he is just using this new leverage to try and get more. sometimes you have to be willing to lose a fight to get the best deal. if the fight doesnt happen people will still think ggg is better than canelo and beat him and thats leverage. does he deserve it just based on drawing power obviously not but there are more variables than just that.


              nah, people won't..... Golovkin fans will

              but Canelo doesn't give a fk about them

              I agree with Mike Rosenthal.....

              1) Purse splits are divided based on drawing power. And the fact remains that Alvarez is a bigger draw than Golovkin, regardless of what happened in the first fight and the drug test

              2) if Golovkin is as smart as I think he is, he’ll put aside this notion of a 50-50 split – which he knows isn’t realistic

              3) Alvarez has other options that will generate very good money..... And assuming Alvarez continues to win, his recent issues will begin to recede into the past

              Golovkin vs. Alvarez: So the Triple-G-Canelo rematch is supposedly in jeopardy. And, of course, the trouble is money-related. Alvarez reportedly wants a 65 percent-to-35 percent split of the purse while Golovkin wants it divided evenly for the proposed superfight targeted for September 15.


              Canelo is already a better fighter than Golovkin historically, also..... Canelo is only 26yo, and he has no problem making BIG fights..... whereas Golovkin almost seems allergic to big fights

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #487
                Originally posted by Tamuera
                Is that some form of autism or denial? Because I didn't argue for a second about "what Golovkin wants", as much as about what's fair.
                You are the one who sounds concerned with protecting your little darling readhead Mexican.

                Purse splits are decided based on a lot of factors. Drawing power is just a major one.
                How much belts they bring to the table another one.
                What the previous fight produced in revenues another one.
                The financial troubles and complications that come as consequences of Alvarez's past actions another one.
                Etc, etc.

                Canelo is NOT a mandatory, he's coming off from a xix months suspension for doping and GGG is under no obligation to face him again if he's not satisfied with the deal.
                There are lot of credible opponents ahead that will not be as profitable, but at least won't ***** and make demands as if they were the only divas in the room.

                according to you..... demanding 50% is totally ignoring the major contributing factor..... which is pricing yourself out

                there is no way to spin that

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