Why do some posters say Joshua beat "THE MAN"

[SUBZER0ED]

It's totally unreasonable considering he was coming off a loss and hadn't won a fight in 2 years.

He wasn't the man of the division at that point. That's clear as day.

And yet, the Joshua vs Klitschko fight put the HW division back on the map.

[McNulty]

Still better than anything on Wilder's resume

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I disagree, the version of Ortiz that fought Wilder was much better than the version of Vlad that fought Joshua.

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[IronDanHamza]

And yet, the Joshua vs Klitschko fight put the HW division back on the map.

Even if that were true so what?

Still doesn't magically make Klitschko "the man" of the division when Joshua beat him.

He wasn't the man of the division. Fact.

[Holler]

Because prior to the strange loss to Fury, Wlad was unbeaten for 10 years. And he reportedly messed Wilder up in sparring. We never heard Wilder call him out. And we know of Deontay's long list of weak opponents. Fury had been out getting fat, drunk, high and losing his damned mind after his win over Wlad. And he got busted for PEDs. It's not unreasonable to give Klitschko top ranking.

This basically.

The man stuff is ridiculously overblown, not least by Fury and Warren seeking to leverage it into an AJ fight. Nonetheless, as much as fury returning will be entertaining fact is he accepted a 2 year ban for a failed PED test. That makes him highly suspect and if you remove him from the equation Wlad makes sense.

[Holler]

I disagree, the version of Ortiz that fought Wilder was much better than the version of Vlad that fought Joshua.

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Except he's never held a belt, never fought a top ranked heavyweight and in his amateur days he wasn't even the best hw in his own country.

[SUBZER0ED]

Even if that were true so what?

Still doesn't magically make Klitschko "the man" of the division when Joshua beat him.

He wasn't the man of the division. Fact.

We can argue about it all day. It doesn't change a thing. Fact. Who cares at this point, aren't we looking ahead to Joshua vs Wilder?

[SuperSuperLeeds]

Except he's never held a belt, never fought a top ranked heavyweight and in his amateur days he wasn't even the best hw in his own country.

This is true but I still think ortiz who faced wilder would of knocked out the wlad that faced AJ but all of that is irrelevant whereas the facts you've just coherently stated are FACTS. Ortiz best win is what kayode when on drugs or malik scott in a snoozefest.

[Kuyukut]

What cherry picks?? last i checked he was fighting p4p fighters and world champions

come on larry, you know that fraud jr waited for mosley to become a senior citizen, waited for cotto to get beaten up, waited for pac to get out of prime, fought clenelo when he was still considered a greenhorn, & ducked margarito like a plague, etc...

[Madison Boxing]

Except he's never held a belt, never fought a top ranked heavyweight and in his amateur days he wasn't even the best hw in his own country.

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[IronDanHamza]

We can argue about it all day. It doesn't change a thing. Fact. Who cares at this point, aren't we looking ahead to Joshua vs Wilder?

Well yeah you're right it doesn't change the fact that Klitschko was not the man of the division when AJ beat him.