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  • #61
    Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
    Now that's real talk, he doesn't need the money, true. He's already made enough in 21 fights to die rich. He wants it in U. K. For him and the fans even if it's less money. Now wilder is the one that needs the money. But it's taking to long. These guys don't need to be out of the ring for 8 months. Like the canelo Golovkin fiasco. See if G had fought one of his mandatories in between those 8 months he wouldn't have 2 mandos do. Same problem is going to arise with the winner of this fight.
    Not really, tbh.

    The only mandatory due is against Povetkin. The WBC and IBF are still putting together their eliminators.

    Unification trumps mandatory, and there's an almost certain reality that the organizations will endorse a possible rematch.

    Any "issue" that could arise after that would fall solely on not sticking to the rotation. With the titles unified, the champion has to fight Povetkin, the Charr-Oquendo winner, the WBC mandatory, the IBF mandatory, and then a voluntary, before fighting the WBA mandatory, and starting the rotation again with the WBO mandatory.

    Without there being some gargantuan money fight to incentivize away from simply following the mandatory schedule (a Fury fight isn't earnestly worth all that much more than the Povetkin fight or a Whyte/Pulev fight or whomever emerges as the WBC mandatory, and Fury can basically be given the WBO's mandatory anyway).

    All Wilder wanted was fair money. Eddie Hearn made the initial offer and said that the fight was only worth so much money, Wilder's camp made it clear that they believed the fight was worth a lot more (to Joshua and to Wilder), and now it's on Eddie Hearn to make the fight worth traveling over for Wilder (and get Joshua to see that the money he is giving up is what got him home advantage on the fight).

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
      They already broke the story. But remember i was first lol
      Lol, yes you was first to announce it

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      • #63
        So he doesn’t want the 50 million then Hearn needs to come up with a decent offer or go kick rocks

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        • #64
          take the fight to vegas...thats where a heavyweight of that magnitude should be

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            Not really, tbh.

            The only mandatory due is against Povetkin. The WBC and IBF are still putting together their eliminators.

            Unification trumps mandatory, and there's an almost certain reality that the organizations will endorse a possible rematch.

            Any "issue" that could arise after that would fall solely on not sticking to the rotation. With the titles unified, the champion has to fight Povetkin, the Charr-Oquendo winner, the WBC mandatory, the IBF mandatory, and then a voluntary, before fighting the WBA mandatory, and starting the rotation again with the WBO mandatory.

            Without there being some gargantuan money fight to incentivize away from simply following the mandatory schedule (a Fury fight isn't earnestly worth all that much more than the Povetkin fight or a Whyte/Pulev fight or whomever emerges as the WBC mandatory, and Fury can basically be given the WBO's mandatory anyway).

            All Wilder wanted was fair money. Eddie Hearn made the initial offer and said that the fight was only worth so much money, Wilder's camp made it clear that they believed the fight was worth a lot more (to Joshua and to Wilder), and now it's on Eddie Hearn to make the fight worth traveling over for Wilder (and get Joshua to see that the money he is giving up is what got him home advantage on the fight).
            Yes a Rematch for sure unless one of them get blasted out but I don't see that happening. But for sure the winner will have trouble holding all the belts because of mandatories regardless of another 8 month wait for a rematch

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            • #66
              This is an embarrassing episode for Team Joshua and all the fanboys that were "giving it large" a few weeks ago. It's quite telling that they've gone very silent recently.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
                Yes a Rematch for sure unless one of them get blasted out but I don't see that happening. But for sure the winner will have trouble holding all the belts because of mandatories regardless of another 8 month wait for a rematch
                Why?

                Have the rematch, and then simply fight whatever mandatory comes up.

                The IBF mandatory is yet to be set yet, and they're the most strict with following their rules. The WBC is the next most strict, but they have some flexibility to what is actually going on.

                The WBA has its own puzzle of rules, and the WBO seems to just make things up as they go, so I'm not really seeing any choke points here.

                The only due fight is Povetkin; still unclear who's mandatory he's taking, but whatever. Maybe I'm just not seeing it

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Jkp View Post
                  Dont under estimate the influence of the ref, just look at the parker fight, and how the ref protected AJ constantly and gave him breaks when he was tired...
                  That TO YOU looks like a "BreaK" because "He's tired"

                  Jesus christ ..log the fck off LMAO WTF IS THIS

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                  • #69
                    The Malfunctioning Robot: "If it is a $100 million fight and they are happy with taking 60-40, I'll take 50-50. Give me $50 million dollars UP FRONT and I SWEAR I'll take that fight tomorrow"

                    Barry Hearn: "The decision is numbers - its a numbers game and its NOTHING to do with BOXING. Its purely to do with 'thats what you GET if you fight Alexander Povetkin, thats what you GET when you fight Jarrell Miller, thats what you GET if you fight Deontay Wilder in England, thats what you GET if you fight Deontay Wilder in America"...."I just have the worry over whether I'm GETTING the MAXIMUM amount of MONEY for my client, because thats my job. His job is knocking people out."

                    Eddie Hearn: "....we have a guy who is making all of this MONEY, and can continue doing so, in RISK FREE fights.....we're not going to overpay Deontay Wilder for this fight..."

                    Slick Eddie: "....Anthony Joshua doesnt need the money and he's not driven by the MONEY."

                    Now its all about "location?!?!"......

                    I really wanna hear Team Hearns response when RANDOM STRINGENT blood testing is brought up and INSISTED upon for his bulky robot.....his response will probably go something like this,"Bloody unheard of! Joshuas clean, how dare you insinuate.....the fight is OFF - dammit.....AJ wouldve fought for free!"

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                    • #70
                      The only explanation is Joshua is **** scared of getting knocked out by wilder

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