The Lomachenko hype is going way too far

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  • Basco
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    #101
    So far he has backed up the hype, no question about it. Can he keep backing it up as he moves up in weight? As good as he is, a prime Pacquiao would've destroy him. We'll just have too see how he does in the future because he has some way to go before being consider ATG!

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    • stuff jones
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      #102
      Basically a few people like him over PBF so you've gone off the deep end? Ok.

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      • Fay
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        #103
        Salidoe...

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        • MONGOOSE66
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          #104
          Over a year ago. He was hype, not now. Out speeding Rigo &out thinking Rigo was impressive. The fact that he makes most people quit is another.
          Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 05-24-2018, 09:42 AM.

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          • Banderivets
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            #105
            One thing though...

            First and foremost it's way to early to do any fantasy H2H as he only has 12 fights so far....or is it 13 now?


            But one thing that stands out in these H2H comparisons is this.

            On WHAT grounds does any 130lb or even say 135lb fighter historically "STARCHES, KILLS, WRECKS...." Loma?

            Pac had losses against guys as late as half way into his career.

            Duran (who I think would take Loma) had a loss at 135 to no one special.

            Loma got KNOCKED DOWN! once! after a bad mistake and got up and got a KO and you fools are all over...

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            • Diego Rodriguez
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              #106
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              Mosley had already declined by 2003 but typical Floyd trying to cherry pick him in 2003 after two losses to Forrest. Even in 2006 he'd beaten a severely washed up Vargas and got a re-match gift over Oscar.

              Mosley's lightweight prime was 97-99 and his best welterweight days were 00-02.

              Are you one of those Floyd fanboys that must defend everything he does and doesn't do whilst also not paying to actually go and see him live?
              Mosley was fighting at 147lbs in 2003. Floyd was at 135lbs.

              Floyd was no one from a money standpoint. His first PPV fight, which he didn't carry, was against Gatti in 2005. That fight took place at 140lbs.

              I'm not getting into the Floyd wouldn't have fought him argument, I don't know. But I'm also not going to listen to foolishness that Shane Mosley was ducking Floyd. That's another Floyd Boys fantasy.

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              • Johnwoo8686
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                #107
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                I didn’t say it’s the standard on not standard. Loma has gotten to #1 in 3 divisions that still doesn’t mean he’s better than SRR, Monzon, Jofre, Greb or Hagler like you think he is.
                I never said Loma was better than any of those guys. In fact I wouldn't even put Loma ahead of Mikey Garcia. I don't know he's rated above Mikey in pound for pound lists, at all.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #108
                  i never saw mayweather get put on his arse like lomachenko did last fight.

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                    I never said Loma was better than any of those guys. In fact I wouldn't even put Loma ahead of Mikey Garcia. I don't know he's rated above Mikey in pound for pound lists, at all.
                    By using your logic surely he'd have to be, no? Isn't that how you came to the conclusion that De La Hoya officially ranked higher all-time than Hagler and Hearns?

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                    • Johnwoo8686
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by chrisJS
                      By using your logic surely he'd have to be, no? Isn't that how you came to the conclusion that De La Hoya officially ranked higher all-time than Hagler and Hearns?
                      I think who you fought matters too and what they accomplished. De La Hoya has proably faced more hall of famers than Hearns has. Hearns faced Leonard, Hagler, Benitez, and Duran while De La Hoya faced Chavez, Whitaker, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Hopkins and Trinidad. De La Hoya was also a 6 division champ as opposed to
                      Hearns 5 divisions.

                      The only guy Loma has beaten who has a chance of being in the hall of fame is Rigondeaux, and Rigo was 37 years old and jumping two weight classes. And that's literally the best name on Loma's resume.

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