Keep it real. Joshua doesn't want to fight Wilder

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  • Biolink
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    #51
    Originally posted by moochi
    Dunno.


    Joshua is guaranteed 20-25 million if he fights Joe Bloggs next.

    Wilder is only guaranteed 2 million if he fights Joe Bloggs next.

    The Joshua uplift is 200%

    The Wilder uplift is 600%

    I'm not sure it's all Joshua's fault here. Wilder is the bigger financial loser here by 3x and if he is confident of beating AJ, then why would he not travel and get paid his 600% pay day ?
    Nobody said that traveling was a problem as long as they give Wilder a fair split that both sides are happy with. But Hearn himself said the fight makes more in the USA and AJ said if they offered 50 million to him he'd be sign, plain and simple. Well it appears the money is in the bag. His demand has been met so what is the problem?

    Either counter-offer Wilder's team something way better than their initial offer of 12.5 million; An offer that both sides can be happy with, or keep it moving and fight Joe Glass for 15 million pounds. If the fight makes more than 12.5 million for Wilder in the USA why would he short change himself especially if they met Joshua's initial demand of 50 million guaranteed.

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      #52
      Originally posted by moochi
      Dunno.


      Joshua is guaranteed 20-25 million if he fights Joe Bloggs next.

      Wilder is only guaranteed 2 million if he fights Joe Bloggs next.

      The Joshua uplift is 200%

      The Wilder uplift is 600%

      I'm not sure it's all Joshua's fault here. Wilder is the bigger financial loser here by 3x and if he is confident of beating AJ, then why would he not travel and get paid his 600% pay day ?
      this is a horrible logic, you as a boxing fan should be worried with one thing only, the best fighting the best, they will always have more money than you. you are not a financial advisor you are a fan. aj asked for 50mil n the offer was given come on bro. this logic from a fan proves you don't want to see the fight, Its clear

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      • IMDAZED
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        #53
        Originally posted by Biolink
        Nobody said that traveling was a problem as long as they give Wilder a fair split that both sides are happy with. But Hearn himself said the fight makes more in the USA and AJ said if they offered 50 million to him he'd be sign, plain and simple. Well it appears the money is in the bag. His demand has been met so what is the problem?

        Either counter-offer Wilder's team something way better than their initial offer of 12.5 million; An offer that both sides can be happy with, or keep it moving and fight Joe Glass for 15 million pounds. If the fight makes more than 12.5 million for Wilder in the USA why would he short change himself especially if they met Joshua's initial demand of 50 million
        guaranteed.
        Wilder makes at least $20m if it’s in the US. I doubt Hearn can offer him that.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Biolink
          Nobody said that traveling was a problem as long as they give Wilder a fair split that both sides are happy with. But Hearn himself said the fight makes more in the USA and AJ said if they offered 50 million to him he'd be sign, plain and simple. Well it appears the money is in the bag. His demand has been met so what is the problem?

          Either counter-offer Wilder's team something way better than their initial offer of 12.5 million; An offer that both sides can be happy with, or keep it moving and fight Joe Glass for 15 million pounds. If the fight makes more than 12.5 million for Wilder in the USA why would he short change himself especially if they met Joshua's initial demand of 50 million guaranteed.
          I wonder why hearn didn't just negotiate a percentage with wilder that way the fight being in the uk would not be an issue. hearn said wilder is not worth a percentage but parker was I really don't understand his position on that.

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            #55
            I see the AJ fanboys are still going around in circles defending why this fight isn't done yet

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              #56
              Originally posted by BufordTannen
              If you notice the dumb brits stopped making so many wilder threads lately. They called ajs bluff but he’s afraid to leave the uk
              yeah when you don't see Robbie barret posting u know something is wrong

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                #57
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Wilder makes at least $20m if it’s in the US. I doubt Hearn can offer him that.
                Yeah not upfront at least. Especially if Joshua isn't getting 20million guarantees over there. He'd have to be digging heavy into his own pockets on the backend, and he seems too greedy to do that.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  I see the AJ fanboys are still going around in circles defending why this fight isn't done yet
                  some are still yelling about 12.5mil being wilders pay x6 lmaoooooooo

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                  • Biolink
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by uppercut510
                    I wonder why hearn didn't just negotiate a percentage with wilder that way the fight being in the uk would not be an issue. hearn said wilder is not worth a percentage but parker was I really don't understand his position on that.
                    Hearn f'ed up initially by basically putting this to a mini bidding war with Showtime by not giving Wilder an offer that was at least a good jumping point to negotiate.

                    Then AJ double f'ed up when he said that 50 million stuff. I bet he didn't expect Wilder's team to actually come up with it. $50 million is 1 or 2 Mayweather fights for Showtime lol. With nothing planned on PPV for Showtime and Las Vegas leaking money since there is no super fight to fill their Casinos and Hotels in since Canelo got popped, it was obvious the "people that be" in the background would do some stuff to get Joshua and Wiler in Vegas.

                    Now Eddie Hearn is scrambling trying to get the power back on his side because suddenly he's finding himself on the outside looking in. Not being able to rip people off for outrageous ticket prices himself in the UK while getting away with big time undercutting Wilder. The only person that's losing is Hearn, definitely not AJ.

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                      #60
                      The fight is being negotiated, all this speculation is just normal, hearn does not want to give control of this fight to wilders team on a flip comment by joshua, he wants to maximize his and joshuas revenue and give joshua the best chance of winning the fight (ie) london, thats what promoters do, they hammer out details, not blindly agree to something on a 24hr timer and other BS, hearn also does not want to be fooled into somehow handing over home advantage and a bigger spit to wilder, its just common sense, but beyond some people obviously

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