Whos Defence is better Floyd's or Winky's?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Left2body
    Undisputed Champion
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Mar 2006
    • 6200
    • 269
    • 277
    • 13,212

    #31
    Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer
    Arent you the same moron who said Taylor beat Wright. You clown, your opinion on the subject is mute, espeically with Floyd in your sig.

    Both have great defense but I say Floyd by a hair, you cant teach speed and Floyd has that. When Floyd loses his speed, it will be winky easily. Floyd isnt as good as Toney with the shoulder roll
    I disagree. If you look at the Taylor or Solimon fight you can see that although Winky takes some impact off a lot of the punches he does get hit solid (just look at his face after the fights).

    Also Defense is not defined by simply being able to stand in the pocket of an opponent and not get hit cleanly although that is a component but it is also marked by how well you do at a distance. PBF has mastered both while Winky is very good at 1.

    Unlike Roy Jones Jr, PBF is perhaps 1 of the most fundamentally sound fighters out there. Later in his career he will be able to win fights against physically superior opponents based on this.

    I think PBF has a better defense than Winky, I also believe that Bernard and James Toney have better defenses and put Winky at 4 among current fighters.

    Comment

    • Gio
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Dec 2004
      • 1081
      • 72
      • 23
      • 7,701

      #32
      I dont like either of these guys but its easily Pretty boy... he's very elusive and i like his style of defense way better.

      Comment

      • deliveryman
        Your token white guy
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Mar 2006
        • 7592
        • 362
        • 178
        • 15,510

        #33
        Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer
        Arent you the same moron who said Taylor beat Wright. You clown, your opinion on the subject is mute, espeically with Floyd in your sig.

        Both have great defense but I say Floyd by a hair, you cant teach speed and Floyd has that. When Floyd loses his speed, it will be winky easily. Floyd isnt as good as Toney with the shoulder roll
        So what if there's a picture of Floyd in my sig. The whole point of my sig was directed towards Judah. If you want, I can put a picture of Zab getting owned by a different fighter and it'd still have the same message.

        How is my opinion mute? I explained my stance thoroughly and logically with good reasoning. It's not like I said, "ROFLROFL WINKYS DEFENCE SUX ROFLROLF PBF CAN OWN THAT SCRUB!!"

        But seeing as how you're so closed minded, and anyone who disagrees with you is a "clown"... welcome to my ignore list.

        Comment

        • realheavyhands
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Jul 2004
          • 4519
          • 107
          • 0
          • 11,370

          #34
          naw its a fact

          Comment

          • maxorido
            Interim Champion
            Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
            • Jan 2006
            • 772
            • 26
            • 49
            • 7,140

            #35
            floyd's defence is better, he uses alot of upperbody movement,twisting,ring movement shoulder rolls etc. winky on the other hand basically holds his hands really high towards the front of his face, he catches jabs well, but i think floyd's defence is better. you not gonna see floyd slurring his words or talking overly slow that's for damn sure.

            Comment

            • realheavyhands
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Jul 2004
              • 4519
              • 107
              • 0
              • 11,370

              #36
              Originally posted by maxorido
              floyd's defence is better, he uses alot of upperbody movement,twisting,ring movement shoulder rolls etc. winky on the other hand basically holds his hands really high towards the front of his face, he catches jabs well, but i think floyd's defence is better. you not gonna see floyd slurring his words or talking overly slow that's for damn sure.
              i didnt see floyd roll **** against judah he hid behind his huge gloves just like winky and rolled the same way winky does exept right handed and he barely did that, he was getting beat up in that style for the first 4 rounds then started fighting like winky and starting winning hmmmmm

              Comment

              • deliveryman
                Your token white guy
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Mar 2006
                • 7592
                • 362
                • 178
                • 15,510

                #37
                Originally posted by realheavyhands
                i didnt see floyd roll **** against judah he hid behind his huge gloves just like winky and rolled the same way winky does exept right handed and he barely did that, he was getting beat up in that style for the first 4 rounds then started fighting like winky and starting winning hmmmmm
                That post just convinced me that you know absolutely nothing about boxing.

                Comment

                • Zab Super Judah
                  Banned
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3894
                  • 154
                  • 4
                  • 4,263

                  #38
                  mayweathers by a mile. It takes more skill to do what mayweather does

                  Comment

                  • Kball15
                    HATTON WRIGHT PAVLIK
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 15471
                    • 491
                    • 86
                    • 22,680

                    #39
                    Originally posted by deliveryman
                    What???? Are you joking? Mayweather doesn't trade? He can trade and is STILL very, very hard to hit.

                    Please see:

                    Mayweather vs N'dou
                    Mayweather vs Corely
                    Mayweather vs Augustus
                    Mayweather vs Chavez

                    just to name a few
                    of coarse he trades. u cant be a boxer and not throw punches. but he runs away from his opponent. Sure, in ALL of those fights he has his opponents hurt and THEN he'll attack. Weak opponents dont have good accuracy...

                    If u think Mayweather stands in front of his opponent and trades even 5% of the amount of time that winky does, then u are CRAZY!!!

                    And what u call "trading" we call "countering." he can counter almost perfectly. BUt as we saw in the castillo fight, get this guy against the ropes and its easy to smash away to the body. of coarse, its hard to do this but if winky's against the ropes he can defend equally as good as he can off the ropes. you dont have a significant advantage over winky's defense no matter where u are in the ring

                    Comment

                    • Kball15
                      HATTON WRIGHT PAVLIK
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 15471
                      • 491
                      • 86
                      • 22,680

                      #40
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      What did those other 2 guys just say? Floyd runs? Have you seen Floyds last 6 fights? Go watch them. In every fight he is coming forward the whole fight and walking his guy down. The N'Dou fight is the only fight he moved some but he still traded with him the whole fight and hit him a million times.

                      Go watch N'Dou, Corley, Brusesles, Mitchell, Zab. He walks all of them down. In the Zab fight he fought him just like Winky fought Taylor and used Winky's defense. He's much more versatile then Winky and can use many different styles offensivley and defensivley.

                      I cant believe you guys say he is running. Watch any of his last 6 fights
                      we arent saying that he moves back the whole fight, if fact ur right, he does move forward most of the fight. But instead of standing in front of his opponent and straight up blocking (like winky), Mayweather will run backward to avoid punches. Nothing wrong with that, but IMO, it takes more skill and punishment to do i the way winky does it

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP