Whos Defence is better Floyd's or Winky's?

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  • GunStar
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    #41
    It's not even close, PBF is much better then Winky, all Winky does is put his glove on his face.

    PBF can fight of the ropes like Toney, he can also dance and move. PBF is a much better counter puncher then Winky.

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    • Kball15
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      #42
      Originally posted by Left2body
      I disagree. If you look at the Taylor or Solimon fight you can see that although Winky takes some impact off a lot of the punches he does get hit solid (just look at his face after the fights).

      Also Defense is not defined by simply being able to stand in the pocket of an opponent and not get hit cleanly although that is a component but it is also marked by how well you do at a distance. PBF has mastered both while Winky is very good at 1.

      Unlike Roy Jones Jr, PBF is perhaps 1 of the most fundamentally sound fighters out there. Later in his career he will be able to win fights against physically superior opponents based on this.

      I think PBF has a better defense than Winky, I also believe that Bernard and James Toney have better defenses and put Winky at 4 among current fighters.

      im sorry, but i dont think that "defense" has anything to do with how well u go the distance. Thats purely conditioning. Sure, defense has a ton to do with ur ability to go the distace, but u cannot compare winky's and floyd's defensive skills by how well they go the distace.

      When winky takes damage, it shows clearly. U never see the damage floyd takes ever. Prolly cause his skin is darker.

      Idc if u think floyds defense is better, but u cant compare it on that IMO

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      • DLT
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        #43
        Originally posted by kfootball15
        we arent saying that he moves back the whole fight, if fact ur right, he does move forward most of the fight. But instead of standing in front of his opponent and straight up blocking (like winky), Mayweather will run backward to avoid punches. Nothing wrong with that, but IMO, it takes more skill and punishment to do i the way winky does it
        Well thats 2 different things. In that case I think you are penalyzing Floyd for having more overall skill then Winky. The fact is Winky cant move in or out or do a bunch of differet things. Floyd can switchup his defensive, be elusive or whatever.

        Winky could do it but it would be so slow that nothing else would work except for him coming forward all fight.

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        • realheavyhands
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          #44
          Originally posted by deliveryman
          That post just convinced me that you know absolutely nothing about boxing.
          i dont have to convince you nothing , who are you a nobody

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          • hollister
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            #45
            I think that Floyd's defence is the better of the two, but I can't say that without mentioning that Donald Hoskins' defence is the best the sport will ever see........

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            • realheavyhands
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              #46
              the way he was rollin hisw shoulder all fighter do he aint no james toney you peaple are ******ed

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              • Easy-E
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                #47
                Originally posted by kfootball15
                im sorry, but i dont think that "defense" has anything to do with how well u go the distance. Thats purely conditioning. Sure, defense has a ton to do with ur ability to go the distace, but u cannot compare winky's and floyd's defensive skills by how well they go the distace.

                When winky takes damage, it shows clearly. U never see the damage floyd takes ever. Prolly cause his skin is darker.

                Idc if u think floyds defense is better, but u cant compare it on that IMO
                Uhhh.....are you serious???

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                • RisAri0
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by kfootball15
                  When winky takes damage, it shows clearly. U never see the damage floyd takes ever. Prolly cause his skin is darker.
                  my god folks I believe we here have a winner for quote of the ****in year!

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                  • deliveryman
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by kfootball15
                    im sorry, but i dont think that "defense" has anything to do with how well u go the distance. Thats purely conditioning. Sure, defense has a ton to do with ur ability to go the distace, but u cannot compare winky's and floyd's defensive skills by how well they go the distace.

                    When winky takes damage, it shows clearly.U never see the damage floyd takes ever. Prolly cause his skin is darker.

                    Idc if u think floyds defense is better, but u cant compare it on that IMO
                    Right, because black people are immune to swelling.

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                    • deliveryman
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by kfootball15
                      of coarse he trades. u cant be a boxer and not throw punches. but he runs away from his opponent. Sure, in ALL of those fights he has his opponents hurt and THEN he'll attack. Weak opponents dont have good accuracy...

                      If u think Mayweather stands in front of his opponent and trades even 5% of the amount of time that winky does, then u are CRAZY!!!

                      And what u call "trading" we call "countering." he can counter almost perfectly. BUt as we saw in the castillo fight, get this guy against the ropes and its easy to smash away to the body. of coarse, its hard to do this but if winky's against the ropes he can defend equally as good as he can off the ropes. you dont have a significant advantage over winky's defense no matter where u are in the ring
                      Those fights that I mentioned, Mayweather fought the entire fight in pocket.

                      And no, I'm not talking about countering, I'm talking about trading punches...

                      Also in the Castillo fight, most of those body shots were hitting elbows and arms, but that's a completely different topic.
                      Last edited by deliveryman; 06-20-2006, 08:51 PM.

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