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  • Eff Pandas
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    #31
    Originally posted by 6cansshortuva6p
    Why? Easy. The U.S. is not gonna spend money on a niche sport that we barely watch for free. This deal won't eliminate the WBC, IBF, WBO, WBA, RING, HBO, ESPN, SHO, PBC, TMT, Duva, Dibella, GB, TR, and everyone else that over complicates boxing. Hearn doesn't have, 1- a stable, 2- prospects, 3- major fights lined up, 4 - a catalog, 5- advertisers. His deal is for 16 fights a year for 8 years. Paying for items 1 thru 4 can eat up a billion real fast. Boxing is SUPER political and corrupt. Eddie can't just poach any fighter he wants. There are a TON of palms to grease. They would have to give the fighters more than what they can get to move them from their house. Then they would have to pay the house. AND YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST FIGHTS EVERY MONTH!!!! If Thurman won't fight Spence and AJ/Wilder is a year or two from now, yeah failure is imminent
    Hearn needs to generate $125M a year to break even on this deal for DAZN. I think they'll do fine even if the first year could be an L as they grow into this new US streaming platform + the US market in general. Give Hearn til year 2 at least to see what he really can or can't do with this. I think Hearn is one of the most intelligent, knows what fans want guys in pro boxing today. Being that guy makes me think it'll be hard for Hearn to eff this up.

    But I love you glass half empty guys who doomsday everything that happens in boxing all day every day. Change ain't that bad my friend.

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    • EnglishOxide
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      #32
      Originally posted by Pandur
      Ohh really? When was the last time UFC sold more than 1 million PPV?
      Boxing did it 3 times last year.

      Boxing had a better year than UFC last year and will so this year.

      Also, it's not like Hearn has much to compete with. Kovalev/Ward was PPV. He can easily put on a better fight and the cost will probably be less than $20.

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        #33
        Originally posted by 6cansshortuva6p
        It's not a "mentality" it's a reality. You are wrong. Ignoring and not facing reality is why YOU not "we" always shortchange yourselves. There's more than 3 types but ok, let's roll with the 3.

        1) People that make things happen know to NOT invest in a paid, streaming boxing network in the U.S. that we have to pay for, with NO proper stable, NO major fights lined up, and NO ACTUAL major sports programming.

        2) People that watch things happen watch everything except boxing, On a streaming boxing network, in the U.S. that we have to pay for, with NO proper stable, NO major fights lined up, and NO ACTUAL major sports programming.

        3) People that ask "What the **** just just happened?" don't even know that you and I are having this discussion. They only watched Canelo vs GGG and Conor vs Floyd. They never heard of Boxing Scene or Bad Left Hook. They don't know who Eddie Hearn or Dazzin is. When they find out, which is probably never, they won't pay a dime for a streaming boxing network, in the U.S. that we have to pay for with NO proper stable, NO major fights lined up, and NO ACTUAL major sports programming.
        First off I enjoy these d##k measuring contests Far more than defending boxers or promoters I have never met. I’m a c##ky git and I’m very happy to share my success with you through Facebook pictures just say the word. Seeing is believing ✌��.. Oh **** I’m black and successful that might p#ss you off also ��

        As for the 3 types of people you assumed all people are into boxing so I won’t waste my time responding to the explanation. However , good luck in your life pursuits

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        • 6cansshortuva6p
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          #34
          It doesn't matter.

          Originally posted by Pandur
          Ohh really? When was the last time UFC sold more than 1 million PPV?
          Boxing did it 3 times last year.

          Boxing had a better year than UFC last year and will so this year.
          UFC can't do a million every month BUT, they can do a ppv every month. Boxing can barely put together 2 every four years. Last year was 3. 2 Canelo, 1 Floyd and UFC star Conor Mcgregor. It looks like BOXING can't do **** . Floyd, Conor and Canelo can. UFC had 12 ppv's in 2017, 38 total major televised events. Boxing
          overall, was no where near that. Those 3 times were the only 3 major events in boxing last year. Come on man. One was because of a UFC fighter and for real, nothing was major about Chavez JR.

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            #35
            Originally posted by 6cansshortuva6p
            Why? Easy. The U.S. is not gonna spend money on a niche sport that we barely watch for free. This deal won't eliminate the WBC, IBF, WBO, WBA, RING, HBO, ESPN, SHO, PBC, TMT, Duva, Dibella, GB, TR, and everyone else that over complicates boxing. Hearn doesn't have, 1- a stable, 2- prospects, 3- major fights lined up, 4 - a catalog, 5- advertisers. His deal is for 16 fights a year for 8 years. Paying for items 1 thru 4 can eat up a billion real fast. Boxing is SUPER political and corrupt. Eddie can't just poach any fighter he wants. There are a TON of palms to grease. They would have to give the fighters more than what they can get to move them from their house. Then they would have to pay the house. AND YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST FIGHTS EVERY MONTH!!!! If Thurman won't fight Spence and AJ/Wilder is a year or two from now, yeah failure is imminent
            It’s that mentality why you are in the economic position you are today. Taking that leap of faith, daring to be great. At your job you work with your hands so it’s too late to try and use your brain now with your posts. The muscle is a brain if you don’t exercise it..... well you know the rest, they end up like you..... never regretting nothing because you never had the balls to try anything

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              #36
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Hearn needs to generate $125M a year to break even on this deal for DAZN. I think they'll do fine even if the first year could be an L as they grow into this new US streaming platform + the US market in general. Give Hearn til year 2 at least to see what he really can or can't do with this. I think Hearn is one of the most intelligent, knows what fans want guys in pro boxing today. Being that guy makes me think it'll be hard for Hearn to eff this up.

              But I love you glass half empty guys who doomsday everything that happens in boxing all day every day. Change ain't that bad my friend.
              Well said bro

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                #37
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Hearn needs to generate $125M a year to break even on this deal for DAZN. I think they'll do fine even if the first year could be an L as they grow into this new US streaming platform + the US market in general. Give Hearn til year 2 at least to see what he really can or can't do with this. I think Hearn is one of the most intelligent, knows what fans want guys in pro boxing today. Being that guy makes me think it'll be hard for Hearn to eff this up.

                But I love you glass half empty guys who doomsday everything that happens in boxing all day every day. Change ain't that bad my friend.
                Well if they charge $15 per month that's just 70K subscribers needed on average per month for that first year to break even. They just need that every month to cover the cost of this deal with Hearn which doesn't sound like an outrageous number of subscribers when you consider how big the market is in the US.

                I hope this deal works and reignites boxing in the US. Anything that brings investment in boxing should be seen as a positive and yes change isn't always bad it can often be very positive.

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                • lefthooklead
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 6cansshortuva6p
                  How in the world do you think some British boxing promoter will use some foreign, sport Netflix to buy rights to the multi-billion dollar NFL? NBA? NHL? and MLB? A billion ain't enough. And, why would we pay for that? We get more than enough on free tv and basic cable. We aren't Germany and Japan. And Eddie isn't some super promotional wizard. He has ANTHONY JOSHUA...that's it. Ok, Kell Brook. But those two only sell at home. We don't care about them here. We won't say "Ooh, AJ is on Dazin, buy that!" And, in the states, boxing fans skew older and aren't cord cutters. We don't turn out in droves to watch PBC fighters for free on free tv., do you think we will pay a monthly subscription? And how in the world do you think Eddie will just poach these fighters? PBC, Top Rank, Golden Boy, HBO, Showtime and ESPN won't just roll over. And, it's not like DAZN will replace ppv. Ppv already died for U.S. boxing decades ago. If you aren't Floyd, forget it. It died because there is not much in boxing we want to pay for. Eddie can't change that. MMA(UFC) is the front runner in combat sports in the States. They can deliver top guy vs top guy every month. Boxing can't. They are spread too thin and won't always fight each other. And they "marinate" fights! Whatever. I love boxing. I wish it would get it's **** together. But, Dazzin isn't the answer. It will fail. It sounds awesome to delusional, British, Hearn fans. Reality in the states is different.
                  Hahaha. Mate, you are a bit confused about all of this. Let's go through this slowly...

                  - Eddie Hearn doesn't run DAZN and he doesn't have any say in what they buy, he is just the exclusive promoter of the boxing that DAZN buy.
                  - DAZN are a distributer of sports. They buy the rights of sports to show on their platform which is a subscription platform. In Germany, Japan, and now Canada, they are buying sports rights so they can show them on their platform.
                  - The $1billion is just their budget for boxing over 8 years, it doesn't include any other sports. That is the amount of rights fees that he will have to spend on fights and fighters
                  - In terms of other sports, once the rights deals for the other sports runs out the NBA, NFL etc will auction off them to the highest bidder. DAZN will try to buy them.
                  - The whole business model is about buying multiple sports and not just boxing. It's a sports distribution service for a subscription fee of about $20 per month.
                  - DAZN already own all of the rights for NFL in Canada for example, and show every game there
                  - DAZN have financial backing by Perform who are owned by Access Industries. The owner of that is worth 19.5 billion on his own. They have a lot of money.
                  - I said he'll try and sign PBC fighters, not poach them. PBC fighters are not signed promotionally to anyone, just managerial contracts.

                  Hope that helps. Any more questions please just Google DAZN before you cry and get all emotional.

                  Ps. I think Eddie Hearn is a c u n t

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                  • lefthooklead
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Hearn needs to generate $125M a year to break even on this deal for DAZN. I think they'll do fine even if the first year could be an L as they grow into this new US streaming platform + the US market in general. Give Hearn til year 2 at least to see what he really can or can't do with this. I think Hearn is one of the most intelligent, knows what fans want guys in pro boxing today. Being that guy makes me think it'll be hard for Hearn to eff this up.

                    But I love you glass half empty guys who doomsday everything that happens in boxing all day every day. Change ain't that bad my friend.
                    He doesn't need to earn 125 mil to break even. DAZN does. It's based on their subscriptions and not about the money that he earns. He is producing the product that they sell as part of their service so he has to make the best fights in order to drive subscriptions but he doesn't need to generate 125mil because the model is based upon them selling MULTIPLE sports.

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by lefthooklead
                      Hahaha. Mate, you are a bit confused about all of this. Let's go through this slowly...

                      - Eddie Hearn doesn't run DAZN and he doesn't have any say in what they buy, he is just the exclusive promoter of the boxing that DAZN buy.
                      - DAZN are a distributer of sports. They buy the rights of sports to show on their platform which is a subscription platform. In Germany, Japan, and now Canada, they are buying sports rights so they can show them on their platform.
                      - The $1billion is just their budget for boxing over 8 years, it doesn't include any other sports. That is the amount of rights fees that he will have to spend on fights and fighters
                      - In terms of other sports, once the rights deals for the other sports runs out the NBA, NFL etc will auction off them to the highest bidder. DAZN will try to buy them.
                      - The whole business model is about buying multiple sports and not just boxing. It's a sports distribution service for a subscription fee of about $20 per month.
                      - DAZN already own all of the rights for NFL in Canada for example, and show every game there
                      - DAZN have financial backing by Perform who are owned by Access Industries. The owner of that is worth 19.5 billion on his own. They have a lot of money.
                      - I said he'll try and sign PBC fighters, not poach them. PBC fighters are not signed promotionally to anyone, just managerial contracts.

                      Hope that helps. Any more questions please just Google DAZN before you cry and get all emotional.

                      Ps. I think Eddie Hearn is a c u n t
                      Eloquently stated apart from Eddie being a c##t. He is a rich co#ky c##t

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