Comments Thread For: We Have Never Seen Anything Like Lomachenko

[sicko]

...For Maybe a Casual who only been watching boxing for the last 1-2 years






Easy to live in the moment tho because it doesn't take much work but I've seen way too many GREATS to just go along with the Agenda Filled Nonsense so NO I can't agree BUT Loma is a Special Talent!

[Redgloveman]

We definitely disagree on when Floyd was at his best. Floyd at 130 was just as good defensively, maybe better because he could not only make you miss in he pocket. He could counter with 5-6 combinations and use his legs to get outta harms way afterward. The welterweight Floyd couldn’t do that.

As for a matchup with Lomachencko. I just don’t see Lomachencko giving Floyd a lot of problems.

As for Corrales, he was a nightmare at jr lightweight. Obviously, his height made him very intimidating at 130lbs. But he was kinda Paul Williams-esque in that he didn’t really use his height as an advantage and was a better inside fighter than outside fighter. Biggest thing was his power. He hit guys, and they went stiff.

I certainly see where you're coming from; I just love the way that Mayweather controlled his opponents later in his career. That mastery of distance rather than reliance on athleticism is beautiful. Loma's being a southpaw is a factor in my reckoning that he would do well against a young Mayweather.

[doom_specialist]

Nobody has ever been a 3 weight world champion after only 12 fights. So it is therefore a fact and not opinion that we have never seen anything like Lomachenko before.

It could all come crashing down in flames, but up to now at this point in his career he is unmatched for accomplishments after so little fights

If you're trying to base your argument entirely on accomplishments, then that's a bit of a false equivalency. Fighters can brag about getting to belts faster than other fighters, but longevity is what ultimately matters. Broner is a 4 weight champion, and look at how undeniably average he is. If Lomachenko were to lose his next fight, he'd just be Broner (something we've seen before).

If we're talking physical abilities/style, then you know the article is outright lying. Roy Jones had Lomachenko's footwork and much more 20+ years ago. He used to literally box circles around some guys.

[j.razor]

Loma is special! He's P-Whitaker, Floyd, and Pacquiao, all combined in one, small, package! Too bad he didn't turn pro until he was 25! It would've been great to see Loma vs. Pacquiao in 2012, when Pacquiao could've still made 135!

If he were that then he wouldn't of lost to Salido or knocked down by Linares.

[hitking]

I certainly see where you're coming from; I just love the way that Mayweather controlled his opponents later in his career. That mastery of distance rather than reliance on athleticism is beautiful. Loma's being a southpaw is a factor in my reckoning that he would do well against a young Mayweather.

I’m a Mayweather fan. But I think some of Floyd’s “mastery” late him his career was about half his own ability and half his aura and opponents being afraid to go at him. Very similar to how Deion Sanders remained an “elite” CB for 5+ years even when his speed was gone and his athleticism was compromised by foot injuries. People didn’t trust what they saw and were scared to throw at him because of his reputation. You could get to Floyd later in his career. Cotto did it. Maidana did it in his first fight with Floyd. Perfect example of guys being scared of Floyd’s reputation is when Manny hurt him in the fourth round of their fight. Manny threw several shots while Floyd was on the ropes. Floyd blocked several of them. But what logical reasoning did Manny have for backing off when Floyd wasn’t even thinking about throwing back. Manny backed off outta fear that Floyd was setting a trap to counter him.

[j.razor]

He lost to Castillo and started to cherrypick from there on.

Cut it out. Floyd beat Castillo twice & nobody wanted to fight Floyd till he became the bank & he fought them then you guys made excuses.

[hitking]

...For Maybe a Casual who only been watching boxing for the last 1-2 years






Easy to live in the moment tho because it doesn't take much work but I've seen way too many GREATS to just go along with the Agenda Filled Nonsense so NO I can't agree BUT Loma is a Special Talent!

And to piggyback. These clips are showing these greats doing this to naturally bigger guys.

[Bronx2245]

If he were that then he wouldn't of lost to Salido or knocked down by Linares.

Style is one thing, execution is another! He got roughed up by Salido, and I think he learned from it. That's a style you don't see in the amateurs! Tyson didn't make the Olympic Team, but look how effective his style was in the pros!

[j.razor]

Why do so many of you bring up Floyd? It’s such an insecure look. Floyd was great, but his time is over. Now I don’t know if we’ve never seen anything like Loma, but he’s special, and the sky is the limit. You can talk about one without mentioning the other.

And anyway, if you really want to bring up fighters who we haven’t seen the likes of, Ali is a better example.

You not paying attention....dan rafael a so called "boxing expert" & writer started this by saying lomo beats Floyd at 130 then Bud had to put him in his place as many fans here need to be put in there place & proved wrong....

[j.razor]

Tbh its not fair to bring up Ali. He's the only fighter in history to beat 4 Olympic gold medalists (Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, and Spinks), and did it at HW. (Not to mention he beat Spinks in his 18th year as a professional.) Great stuff.

However, bringing up Floyd is largely due to this meme going around net comparing their first twelve fights. I'm likely much younger than you, so I understand if you haven't seen it, but I assume others here have.

It was dan rafael's fault for saying lomo beats Floyd at 130.