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  • Metho_4u
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    #151
    Originally posted by hitking
    Yep, decent alternative. Now find a post where I said Linares is a world beater.
    If we can't get Mikey against Lomachenko or Crawford, this is an acceptable alternative.
    I view Mikey as a bonafide elite. So its hard for me to get overly excited about seeing him in with the likes of Linares or Easter. I wanna see him in with other elites like Crawford and Lomachenko. But every fight isn't gonna be a superfight. And guys like Linares and Easter are certainly good gap fillers in between those bigger fights.
    As a fan, I wanna see the biggest fights. And the biggest fights for Mikey are Lomachenko and Crawford, maybe Manny.
    You seemed to be pretty high on Lomachenco a year ago, now giving him **** fou beating Linares

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    • hitking
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      #152
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      He beat his share of world champions, former or current. I won't boxrec his ass, but in his last wins Crolla and Campbell are all ranked top 10 at 135. When you beat back to back top 10 fighters in your division, your legit.

      Nobody said Linares is P4P but he's a legit solid lightweight belt holder who wasn't an easy challenge for a smaller man.

      Linares never had been outboxed, he was beating up bad De Marco before GTFO.

      He's kinda like Kahn, very good fighter with bad intangibles, especially a bad/average punch resistance.
      I consider a faded Oscar Larios Linares best win. And with Linares, it’s not even about his wins. It’s about his loses. He’s been beaten by guys that aren’t very good. Very similar to how I viewed Lemieux going into the GGG fight. How am I supposed to consider a guy that’s been beaten by C level competition on multiple occasions a great win for a guy thats in the top two or three on pretty much every P4P list?

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      • BillyBoxing
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        #153
        Originally posted by hitking
        I consider a faded Oscar Larios Linares best win. And with Linares, it’s not even about his wins. It’s about his loses. He’s been beaten by guys that aren’t very good. Very similar to how I viewed Lemieux going into the GGG fight. How am I supposed to consider a guy that’s been beaten by C level competition on multiple occasions a great win for a guy thats in the top two or three on pretty much every P4P list?
        Because there was a real size difference?

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        • hitking
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          #154
          Originally posted by Metho_4u
          You seemed to be pretty high on Lomachenco a year ago, now giving him **** fou beating Linares
          I’m still high on him. I’m just low on the idiots that wanna label him an ATG. And pump up guys like Linares to fit that agenda. I mean, after the Rigondeaux fight, folks were talking about Lomachencko being the best jr lightweight ever and would have beaten the jr lightweight version of Floyd. So yeah, by those lofty standards, I think he’s overrated.

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          • hitking
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            #155
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing
            Because there was a real size difference?
            Bro, outside of a handful of fights. The minute Floyd left the jr lightweight division, he faced a size disadvantage almost every time out and nobody gave a ****. And let’s be real, Linares started his career as a featherweight. I think he may have even won some minor titles as a jr featherweight. So let’s not pretend Lomachencko was facing the size difference that say....Rigondeaux faced when he fought Vasiliy.

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              #156
              Originally posted by hitking
              I’m still high on him. I’m just low on the idiots that wanna label him an ATG. And pump up guys like Linares to fit that agenda. I mean, after the Rigondeaux fight, folks were talking about Lomachencko being the best jr lightweight ever and would have beaten the jr lightweight version of Floyd. So yeah, by those lofty standards, I think he’s overrated.
              Ok, where was Garcia in his 12th fight? Who's Mikey beaten? You know he quit vs salido because he was starting to get to him... Mikey's best win is Broner, who never let's his hands go. So, in truth, you're all over a guys nuts that's more overrated at over double Lomachenco's fight amounts than anyone else. Don't be a hypocrite.

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                #157
                Originally posted by hitking
                Bro, outside of a handful of fights. The minute Floyd left the jr lightweight division, he faced a size disadvantage almost every time out and nobody gave a ****. And let’s be real, Linares started his career as a featherweight. I think he may have even won some minor titles as a jr featherweight. So let’s not pretend Lomachencko was facing the size difference that say....Rigondeaux faced when he fought Vasiliy.
                All you had to do was look at the numbers... Linares had a much longer reach, height, and was obviously bigger in general.

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                • BillyBoxing
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by hitking
                  Bro, outside of a handful of fights. The minute Floyd left the jr lightweight division, he faced a size disadvantage almost every time out and nobody gave a ****. And let’s be real, Linares started his career as a featherweight. I think he may have even won some minor titles as a jr featherweight. So let’s not pretend Lomachencko was facing the size difference that say....Rigondeaux faced when he fought Vasiliy.
                  Linares was a featherweight when he was 22...

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                  • hitking
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Metho_4u
                    Ok, where was Garcia in his 12th fight? Who's Mikey beaten? You know he quit vs salido because he was starting to get to him... Mikey's best win is Broner, who never let's his hands go. So, in truth, you're all over a guys nuts that's more overrated at over double Lomachenco's fight amounts than anyone else. Don't be a hypocrite.
                    The whole “twelve pro fights” thing kinda loses some it it’s luster when a guy is thirty years old.

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                    • hitking
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      Linares was a featherweight when he was 22...
                      Dude, that’s also the Floyd-Manny size debate. Manny got a lot of credit for coming all the way up to welterweight from flyweight. But he was extremely young when he started. And by comparison, at the same ages, Floyd was fighting at similar weights as a amateur. But Floyd wasn’t as celebrated for moving up as much as Manny was.

                      Linares was the bigger guy. But it wasn’t as a big a size difference as some are making it out to be.

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