How do people love PBC but hate Hearn's new venture?

[filup79]

Oh man please. Don't even come and give us that BS with Haye. Everyone said it was a mismatch - the other way.

Hearn didn't protect Brook for years, they tried making all sorts of fights. Problem is he wasn't big enough to do PPV, so no one will fight him + he was very good clearly.

You have to sometime just think a little bit before you post.

It might have been a GBP card, but I still remember Lara vs Foreman and Dirrell vs some hungarian on the same card. Both total mismatches.

Sometimes, the A side needs some highlighting. Just the way boxing is, always has been and always will be.

Brook was not big enough to be PPV and no one would fight him? I remember Brook pulling out of fights against Alexander and declining to fight Bradley in order to go the IBF route. He declined to fight Rios, Chavez and Vargas.

[sunny31]

I'm sure it works for you since u have limited access to sports but we that live in the US, we can just flip a channel and pretty much watch any game that's on.

You are missing a few angles here though, the main one being 16 stand alone events/fights, what if those fights involve elite American fighters. I'm not going to throw any names out there because I don't know what fights/fighters you would be desperate to watch. But imagine that scenario as it pertains to you.

Also there is no contract so you can dip in and out of it as you please, if there is a big fight schedule coming up you have the power to subscribe, and then unsubscribe.

The price point hasn't been confirmed, it is €10 in Europe, let's wait and see.

There are many expats and people in the US who are fans of, and would love better coverage of the Premier League, La Liga, Formula 1, as well as a great boxing package. Just as there are people in Europe and the rest of the world that are fans of US sport and European sport, and leagues.

Currently there is no mass market streaming service for sports. It will happen whether it is DAZN or someone else because that is the future, anyone worth their salt knows this. Imagine having access to Sporting events from all over the world in a library (Netflix) format that you can access at your own time and pleasure. That is where we are headed.

Networks will be there, but they will have to adjust and change their ethos over time.

There are toobmany people with a 'Blockbuster' mentality.

[Wolfie*]

I got to see how things shape up with this before I criticize it. I just want to see who he signs, what fights are made, and what's the price point. With ESPN+, we Americans already have a sports streaming service. Let's see what he's able to do.

[Cloud]

We know why they stay hatin' maaang.. Keep on they nex

[uppercut510]

not as much as hearn does from your community.

man u need to grow the hell up, im sure you're over 14 bro you just have to stop at some point, here it is al Haymon is called al gaymon, people hope his deal fails, threads keeping up with its so called failure, hes the worst thing to happen to boxing, and much more yet the man has never done a interview, nobody even knows his personality, yet a few people call out eddie hearn on his constant lies and contradictions, and say this deal may not work for him because people may not pay and he doesnt really have the fighters that people would pay to see in action... makes him the most hated promoter in the world by so called black people? eddie hearn is a smart business man who knows he can manipulate people, he does a good job of it. he can say one thing one week and then say he didnt say it and only 7 people will call him out. the 7 who call him out makes him the most hated promoter in sports history.

[The Gambler1981]

For DAZN to work in America they need access to more sports than boxing, and preferably sports based in American that have an N or M in the initials. Those are hard rights to come by though and nobody is sleeping on what those rights are worth.

It could cobble together something that works with Boxing, F1 (maybe), NON-epl/ucl football (those rights are spoken for heavily), plus some other smaller stuff maybe non wwe wrestling like NJPW and ROH which are gaining popularity in the US but lack wide distribution for example. Still are people going to pay premium prices for that content? Some would no doubt but enough to justify the costs?

The problem for boxing is if DAZN doesn't work and Hearn is left holding the bag how many US fighters get left in the lurch because their contracted demands can't be met? It sounds good but press releases are meant to sound good, so ask some questions.

PBC to work was obviously a longer term play they had no chance to make money up front or in 5 years really (although they would probably hope to be turning a corner by that point). DAZN is operating similarly to PBC in that they are trying to change the game while Hearn is taking advantage of that. SO if you thought PBC was burning through cash fast just watch how much DAZN has to spend to even dream of competing in this market and that has next to nothing to do with boxing or Hearn other than collateral damage if it blows up.

If the venture works it is great for everyone as more capital put into boxing is good for the sport but this is not a sure thing sort of venture and a lots of boxers could get screwed by something that is pie in the sky.

[brettWall]

If Hearn could solve the inactivity problem plaguing the sport, then he should be welcomed with open arms.

[sunny31]

For DAZN to work in America they need access to more sports than boxing, and preferably sports based in American that have an N or M in the initials. Those are hard rights to come by though and nobody is sleeping on what those rights are worth.

It could cobble together something that works with Boxing, F1 (maybe), NON-epl/ucl football (those rights are spoken for heavily), plus some other smaller stuff maybe non wwe wrestling like NJPW and ROH which are gaining popularity in the US but lack wide distribution for example. Still are people going to pay premium prices for that content? Some would no doubt but enough to justify the costs?

The problem for boxing is if DAZN doesn't work and Hearn is left holding the bag how many US fighters get left in the lurch because their contracted demands can't be met? It sounds good but press releases are meant to sound good, so ask some questions.

PBC to work was obviously a longer term play they had no chance to make money up front or in 5 years really (although they would probably hope to be turning a corner by that point). DAZN is operating similarly to PBC in that they are trying to change the game while Hearn is taking advantage of that. SO if you thought PBC was burning through cash fast just watch how much DAZN has to spend to even dream of competing in this market and that has next to nothing to do with boxing or Hearn other than collateral damage if it blows up.

If the venture works it is great for everyone as more capital put into boxing is good for the sport but this is not a sure thing sort of venture and a lots of boxers could get screwed by something that is pie in the sky.

Again you are missing the fact that they already have a good subscriber base, which includes a million subscribers in Japan alone. They hold the Premier League and Champions league rights in Germany, MASSIVE. They don't need a huge American subscriber base, and certainly not immediately, but they WANT it, to take them to the next level. The US boxing content will give them more subscribers in their existing markets, and other countries that are in the pipeline (which they have the rights to).

It is nothing like the PBC in practicality, because they have their own platform.

Hearn has a $8 million budget per US show for the next 2 years. PBC had nowhere near that kind of financial backing.

Not to mention this is a completely different model, it's a subscription based streaming service, not relying on networks to provide slots. They are looking for a steady progression in subscriptions over several years not profit on individual shows, and that right there is the only real uncertainty with this. We all know streaming is the future, it's why all top of the line Tv's have built in Wi-Fi and streaming services, etc. It's the way music has gone, and movies are going. It's a matter of when not if with sport.

[Randall Cunning]

I actually like the new proposal and don't mind paying £10 - £20 for streaming through DAZN, as long as there's no additional fees for PPV events. Hopefully, it includes everything.

My dream TV package would be all available boxing fights along with classics, a new contender series and career sets in HD.

Its being implied DAZN have the WBSS aswell, gunna have 53 cards on it in first year. Starting to wish it was available in the UK now.

[BWC]

Can someone tell me why these crackheads love Al Haymon to bits and hate Eddie Hearn and calling his new thing pathetic?

Both have:

• Free to air fights (although Haymon wasted all his money so now the big fights are back on cable)
  
• No PPV
  
• Work with different promoters
  
• Bringing new ideas to boxing
  
  

Why are people hating/loving the same thing? Is it blind nationalism?

Are people just idiots? Or are the Al Haymon fans just not real boxing fans?

I don't get how Hearn's new idea could in anyway whatsoever not be loved by real boxing fans. He has double the budget of SHO and HBO put together!

You know what that means? Bigger, better fights! Consistently.

Anyway, hate along. Same old boring crap from the idiots on NSB

I don't "hate" Hearn's plan. I always root for boxing to be successful. Just can't stand the "genius" hype that surrounds the guy..