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  • Tygshsu
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    #281
    Originally posted by apollocreed
    He chose to represent Britain because he wanted to, he considered himself British. If he wanted to represent Canada as a pro he could have done, Razor Ruddock did it.
    This wasn't the point I was even making, so I'm not getting ****** into this endless argument. My point was that Lewis was based in Britain and had all of his early fights there, but understood that he had to fight in America to prove he was the best. Joshua should have the same attitude imo, but it seems if he could, he'd fight his entire career in Britain. I'm not a fan of Joshua and he's not a skilled boxer, just a weightlifting power puncher with a basic jab, right hand style and decent speed for his size. I've never particularly enjoyed watching him, Lewis had more skill in his little finger than Joshua has.
    Yes, Because Joshua has **** coaches around him.British Trainers are Garbage, he needs North American Trainers such as Mexicans or Americans.Joshua is a much better solid base than Wilder for example who is naturally a basketball player and is clumsy, however Joshua you have a legit boxer their who needs a sprinkle in his style...Joshua has to fight Wilder in Las Vegas, every Elite Fighter has done it and it may be his only chance to fight in Vegas, what i dont understand is Hearn has said their is more money in a Vegas fight by 10MILLION- Are you seriously saying Hearn and Joshua dont give a hoot about money and care about the fans ? You're having a laugh, they have UK Judges, Referee's all planned out and that is why they want it in the UK-This is Eddie Hearn you're talking about, he would sell his own grandma for money-something's not right...

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    • The plunger man
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      #282
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      Wilder didn't turn down the offer; he countered Hearn's offer (he's already gone public with his thinking of $40m-$45m being all the fight could generate for the fighters) with an offer that puts Anthony Joshua's take at being more than Hearn even thought the fight was worth in the UK. Not that difficult.

      Gennady Golovkin, fresh off the biggest fight of his career, is such a non-draw that he and his camp were forced to leave Las Vegas, fight in front of maybe 7,000 people at StubHub.

      Deontay Wilder is an obscure American heavyweight who has at least $50m backing him for a fight against Anthony Joshua. Be foolish if you want.
      There negotiating as we speak and looks like hearn has again made a counter offer to wilders team ....its called dialogue

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #283
        Originally posted by 5000boxing
        Damn.. this entire comments section smells of fear piss and old bones.. aj don't want no smoke! Wilder puts fear in these cowards hearts.. cowardly fans will not help u in the squared circle.. only the ref.. but even he's not going to be able to save you from wilders right hand. Its over.. the gravy train is over!
        I hope I will still see you on this site after wilder is KOed.

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #284
          Originally posted by Superarms1
          [B]I believe AJ is afraid to fly and scared of air planes.....p...u..s..s...y.
          What's wrong if your ***** flies down?
          Will the elephant collapse?

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          • Laligalaliga
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            #285
            Originally posted by apollocreed
            That's one uppercut. Sorry but if you've watched any of Lewis's fights, you'll know he's in a different universe of talent to Joshua. I strongly believe that. Joshua's just a big stiff musclebound tree with basic technique. He's nearer Bruno than Lewis.
            Lennox was a boxer puncher, he was big and powerful, but so much more flexible and mobile than Joshua. He also had great boxing intelligence. He could control guys with boxing skills or take them out early, he threw fast combinations. He had the full package. Joshua plods around behind a high guard and throws powerful jabs and one two's, it's nothing special. I've never looked forward to watching him since he turned pro.
            everybody must not watch the champ. that's what makes him champ. His style can't be liked by everybody, especially people like you, so we his fans have no problem with that. He has been fighting and he has been winning that all that matters, every other opinion is at owners risk.

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            • KnickTillDeaTh
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              #286
              Originally posted by Ray*
              Yes I still found this funny, you replying to me in regards to AJ is not big in America, anyone replying to anyone with that logic should be laughed at, so Robbie says Wilder isn’t known in America so? Fact is up until now he wasn’t known, this whole Joshua thing has definitely helped him, but after 10 years as a pro he should be a better known athlete, a PPV HW after 10 years.

              Going back to AJ of course he isn’t known and he wouldn’t be known, he has 21 fights and only came to prominence after the Wlad fight. So anyone claiming AJ isn’t known in America as a sort of “Comeback” IMHO should be laughed at, especially when you are using one or two posters to justify it.

              For your information should AJ take that fight in America yes, why because he has been offered money that would be twice what he usually earn.

              You said it was funny because nobody was saying AJ was a draw in America, Robbie said AJ was needed to revive the American Heavyweight division, that's why the the response to him was AJ is not even a draw in America, so in this case a response that includes the fact that AJ is not a draw in America makes absolute sense. I showed you why and who the original response was made. Now you're changing to suit your original comment, that's fine, pretty typical of people on the forum. Anyway regarding the bold in your comment. Wilder was bringing in high ratings, over 1 million views on showtime way before AJ was anywhere near the picture, Wilder also had over 2.5 million viewers when he fought on national T.V.. So no, not because of AJ. As far as the rest of the bolded comment, you prove what I said in my original post, you really don't understand how U.S. PPV works as it pertains to boxing. Now you and others come on hear and say Wilder is not a draw, or in your case you say he's kind of a draw because of AJ, we respond with facts to prove you are wrong, and you find it funny? Explain to me why someone shouldn't respond to a poster if they are wrong, like your last post was.

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              • Ray*
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                #287
                Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                You said it was funny because nobody was saying AJ was a draw in America, Robbie said AJ was needed to revive the American Heavyweight division.
                You taking Robbie words as the gospel? Because when you replied to my initial post I thought why are you preaching to me about AJ and not being known in America. Am about him getting himself down to America and fighting Wilder with the offer on the table. Fact is no one known him in America until he fights there and build himself there, so to be pointing out otherwise is irrelevant IMHO. Am just going to leave it at that. People are are pointing out that AJ is big or not big in America are wasting their time period!

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                • apollocreed
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                  #288
                  Originally posted by Tygshsu
                  Yes, Because Joshua has **** coaches around him.British Trainers are Garbage, he needs North American Trainers such as Mexicans or Americans.Joshua is a much better solid base than Wilder for example who is naturally a basketball player and is clumsy, however Joshua you have a legit boxer their who needs a sprinkle in his style...Joshua has to fight Wilder in Las Vegas, every Elite Fighter has done it and it may be his only chance to fight in Vegas, what i dont understand is Hearn has said their is more money in a Vegas fight by 10MILLION- Are you seriously saying Hearn and Joshua dont give a hoot about money and care about the fans ? You're having a laugh, they have UK Judges, Referee's all planned out and that is why they want it in the UK-This is Eddie Hearn you're talking about, he would sell his own grandma for money-something's not right...
                  Oh my god you idiot - have you actually read my posts on this thread?? I'm not a fan of Joshua, and I think it looks like him and Hearn are avoiding the fight. I've said they should accept the 50m offer that Joshua already asked for and fight in America like Lewis did. I really don't care if Joshua gets beat by Wilder or not - I'm not a Joshua fan. To me he's just a big musclebound stiff with basic skills, I've never enjoyed watching him since he turned pro. Word of advice - read posts properly in future.

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                  • KnickTillDeaTh
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                    #289
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    You taking Robbie words as the gospel? Because when you replied to my initial post I thought why are you preaching to me about AJ and not being known in America. Am about him getting himself down to America and fighting Wilder with the offer on the table. Fact is no one known him in America until he fights there and build himself there, so to be pointing out otherwise is irrelevant IMHO. Am just going to leave it at that. People are are pointing out that AJ is big or not big in America are wasting their time period!
                    No, I actually don't respond to Robbie, he's quite clearly a troll. But unless you don't visit these forums, or read many posts when you do, there have been many who say Wilder is not known in America, not just 1 or 2 people, and there are also many on the AJ side who compare their popularity, which makes no sense. Either way, I think if you read through the forum you will find it is AJ fans that begin this conversation, as many posters have already pointed out, Wilder fans have already conceded the A side, why do they keep bringing popularity up.

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                    • 5000boxing
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                      #290
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      I hope I will still see you on this site after wilder is KOed.
                      Lol.. if wilder gets koed I would give AJ Major Major credit! But at the moment.. I give wilder more credit for beating ortiz. than joshua for beating klit.. I just want to see it!!

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